babies and teens are all capable to consent, the only thing that needs to change according to age is the action

[Nopi Balki]

Okay....so some of you MAPS come up with the MOST wild shit ever...no baby can consent IDFC what anyone says.....

I mean their are arguments that "why should sexual play be any different than any other sort of touch except one has to do with genitals and the other doesn't so why do we stigmatize any genital contact in the name of learned trauma" And I do admit I have some of that learned disgust as well but....

What are you so mad for man?

I never said I was mad, just stating how I feel on the matter.

But i mean what do you see wrong of an adult being attracted to a baby?

[Theendoftheline]

What are you so mad for man?

I never said I was mad, just stating how I feel on the matter.

But i mean what do you see wrong of an adult being attracted to a baby?

Idk I'm just biased...babies are the most disgusting things to me personally anyway, just blubbering masses of fat and drool that shit and piss themselves all day....I do not find that personally attractive at all.

[Nopi Balki]

I never said I was mad, just stating how I feel on the matter.

But i mean what do you see wrong of an adult being attracted to a baby?

Idk I'm just biased...babies are the most disgusting things to me personally anyway, just blubbering masses of fat and drool that shit and piss themselves all day....I do not find that personally attractive at all.

I respect is not ur attraction, but about this "just blubbering masses of fat and drool that shit and piss themselves all day....", there is much more than that, when they pick up an object or toy and look at it with curiosity, when they see something simple and they giggle so happy for it , at that age they are very affectionate and they wanting to be close to someone and hug them, i see that and am in love man, sure parents experience that same emotions as me just that for me is that plus the sexual attraction, so that attraction though rare is not something too out of this world

Have you been a parent yet or never gonna try?

[Theendoftheline]

But i mean what do you see wrong of an adult being attracted to a baby?

Idk I'm just biased...babies are the most disgusting things to me personally anyway, just blubbering masses of fat and drool that shit and piss themselves all day....I do not find that personally attractive at all.

I respect is not ur attraction, but about this "just blubbering masses of fat and drool that shit and piss themselves all day....", there is much more than that, when they pick up an object or toy and look at it with curiosity, when they see something simple and they giggle so happy for it , at that age they are very affectionate and they wanting to be close to someone and hug them, i see that and am in love man, sure parents experience that same emotions as me just that for me is that plus the sexual attraction, so that attraction though rare is not something too out of this world

Have you been a parent yet or never gonna try?

i dunno man i just cannot get behind that. I think you are confusing fraternal feelings with sexual desire somehow.

[MAPallmylife66]

I never said I was mad, just stating how I feel on the matter.

But i mean what do you see wrong of an adult being attracted to a baby?

Idk I'm just biased...babies are the most disgusting things to me personally anyway, just blubbering masses of fat and drool that shit and piss themselves all day....I do not find that personally attractive at all.

I'm not personally attracted to infants either, however I recognize that there are different categories of MAPs, who have a wide range of attractions, that also include babies. I'm not about to judge someone, just because they're not attracted to 6 through 10 year olds like I am. We're all social outcasts in the real world, so lets not ostracize each other on here, when this is literally one of a very small handful of places where we can actually express this part of ourselves.

[Theendoftheline]

But i mean what do you see wrong of an adult being attracted to a baby?

Idk I'm just biased...babies are the most disgusting things to me personally anyway, just blubbering masses of fat and drool that shit and piss themselves all day....I do not find that personally attractive at all.

I'm not personally attracted to infants either, however I recognize that there are different categories of MAPs, who have a wide range of attractions, that also include babies. I'm not about to judge someone, just because they're not attracted to 6 through 10 year olds like I am. We're all social outcasts in the real world, so lets not ostracize each other on here, when this is literally one of a very small handful of places where we can actually express this part of ourselves.

Fair enough

[Enbyfictionwriter]

This is such an interesting thread!

I am curious , between all the different types of maps out here - some proC, some anti - many or most maps will abstain from doing sexual things with kids (whether it’s fear of the law, losing your position in society, or the risk or doing harm )….and maybe just fantasize instead.

(AI CP could be extremely harm reducing in this way, and would benefit so many kids and maps/adults).

So- what kind of stuff do people think is ok to do? Or would be ok to do in a more perfect world? Penetrating a baby is a clear example of “no,” while full on sex with a teen would be closer to a clear “yes.” So what else is in between?

Where do we even draw the line between what is “sexual,” and what isn’t?

-Cuddling
-Kissing
-Making out

-Pleasing a child in a gentle way when they clearly enjoy it and consent - rubbing, or oral (?)

-Asking a child to please an adult (this feels stickier for me, as in a healthy relationship it is generally about a mature adult caring for a kid, and kids aren’t here to meet adult needs)

-And a thousand other possible manifestations. I think part of the reason some people fear maps is they automatically assume anyone who has this identify wants to grab a child off the street and force them into full penetration.

But what about the full rainbow of LGBT? Some people are hetero but ACE. Or solosexual and only want to play alone sexually.
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I guess for me it’s hard to know for sure what it would look like in a more healthy society. I think being comfortable with nudity would be a start- we would all be nudist, whether it was sexual or not. And sex wouldn’t need to be hidden - from kids or anyone else. And kids would be free to have sex with themselves or others. And adults would be free to…do what exactly? I’m not totally sure, but it’s probably not black and white is it?

I know that even today young kids will touch themselves and even try to hump a caregivers leg, if they haven’t grown up in a repressive environment. Some kids are curious about adult bodies and maybe even turned on and curious, but this is where it could get tricky (in a more perfect world). If a child wanted to explore an adults body, I guess that would be amazing for them! And the adult, but I worry about how to manage the fact of it becoming about the adults needs at some point, and not the child’s.


And of course I believe the harm from most “abuse” these days is the social construct and people’s response; not the sexual acts themselves (unless violent). So even today I think following the law is critical to protect ourselves and to protect the kiddos.