The Catholic Church, pederasty, and the "sex abuse" cases

[Artaxerxes II]

Regarding the Catholic church's sex abuses, one might think that they're a modern phenomenon. But apparently allegations of Catholic priests molesting people goes as far back as the turn of the first millennium.

For example, Cardinal of Pope Leo IX and benedictine monk Peter Damian wrote and published, in c. 1051 AD, his book Liber Gomorrhianus, where various vices such as concubinage by the Catholic laity of the time. But he takes a strong stance towards priests having relationships with teen boys (i.e., pederasty): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liber_Gomorrhianus
https://archive.ph/5sFL7

In the biography, Katharina von Zimmern, the last abbess of the Fraumünster Abbey in Zürich, it is stated that she and her sister were temporarily removed from their abbey partly due to harassment (or molestation) by the priests there:

He received support from Albrecht von Bonstetten, the humanistically educated dean of the Einsiedeln monastery, who had the best relations and was on the road in some diplomatic business. The two sisters entered in 1491 and were dressed in 1494. The handover of the orderly robe was a solemn act.

However, there were indications that moral conditions prevailed in the abbey and that the young girls were harassed by clergymen. As a result, the girls had to return to Weesen for a short time. The Fraumünster was still considered a Benedictine abbey, but the ladies lived as if in a free monastery.
https://web.archive.org/web/20160331123 ... =bio&id=93

Again in the 15th century, Martin Luther himself alleged in his pamphlet Warnunge D. Martini Luther/An seine lieben Deudschen that Pope Leo X vetoed a motion that would've restricted the number of clergy boys per cardinal, stating that doing otherwise would make it harder for the pope to cover up pederasty within the Catholic Church. Luther would be the last person to trust when it comes to the Catholic Church, but the fact that even a loyal catholic monk like Peter Damian was sounding the alarm on sodomy (be it man-man or man-boy) does raise the question as to whether the same practices continued within the clergy centuries after.

Anyway, I got these sources from Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_ ... buse_cases

[Harlan]

But apparently allegations of Catholic priests molesting people goes as far back as the turn of the first millennium.

This is natural human behavior in any closed system where sexuality is suppressed. People's sexuality is difficult to lock in by dogmas. That's why what happens always happens. People are left with either trying to endlessly resist it and face "messed abuses" or humanize and civilize it, separating real abuse and rape from mutual and voluntary intimacy.

[SCOTUSbaby]

Peter Damian was hot & bothered by this issue.

Clearly, this was a dude with some issues.

https://ia802308.us.archive.org/15/item ... hianus.pdf

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[Riva]

WTF i like the catholic church now. More seriously this is entirely predictable when u think about what type of person would voluntarily become a priest (also the reality that there are far more boylovers than manlovers).