The funny side of antis; esp. UHLER!

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The funny side of antis; esp. UHLER!

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With enemies like these, who needs friends?

I had assumed that all the recent attacks on UHLER were attempts by TEAm PEDO to take him down, as our current most-strident anti-pedo voice.

BUT nO! If 1/10 of what this expose is saying is true, he's an all-round bad egg indeed, and quite the swaggerer, wanting to be taken seriously (!) with his (fake) "thousands of sex-offender clients."

https://www.thedistancemag.com/p/south- ... gating-jon

nOTE special guest-appearance by BRITTAnY ORTIZ'S DOG, and LOVE-InTEREST ARC between Sierra "Exulansic" Weir, and AGP PHIL ILLEY.

(That's a bitter, bitter joke: I don't know two people less likely to form a heterosexual bond with anyone, much less each other.)

And after Uhler? Who's beating the anti-pedo drum loudliest?

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Long article and I didn't read it all, but sounds like quite the scum bag. I hadn't heard of this Uhler before, but he was a strong anti voice? I'm glad the true character of these people is being revealed.
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Re: The funny suide of antis; esp. UHLER!

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I collected some information about Jon:

https://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/List_of_CS ... proponents

Search for him on social media, and you will find even more bizarre/outlandish accusations against him.
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Re: The funny side of antis; esp. UHLER!

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Uhler is alleged to have exposed the names of two offenders under his care on social media, presenting their cases in false light, and risking their potential harassment in order to inflate public perception of his expertise.
This is the kind of evidence I've been looking for in order to make the case that seeking out help isn't just unpleasant or difficult, but actually dangerous.
Jon Uhler has made similar claims against other users of the app who challenge his expertise and credibility. As demonstrated below, Uhler also appears to offer diagnoses of interlocutors on the app despite having never met or assessed them according to professional guidelines. We submit that this fictive bullying behavior is revealing of Uhler's character.
lmao
If hearings take place, that reporter "may be called as witness," according to the letter. Since receiving his own copy of that letter, Uhler has unwisely harassed this potential witness to his case via the X app while simultaneously blocking them.
Jonathan Knight Uhler continues to make potentially libelous accusations and slander against numerous people while citing his credentials, experience, and expertise. He publishes and broadcasts tendentious claims that the objects of his smears favor sex criminals having access to vulnerable women and children.
Based.
According to Nicole, from the age of eight, Jon and his wife Patricia would threaten to make her homeless, or put her in foster care, unless she agreed to make petty changes, such as clothing choices or the groceries she consumed.
"We'll pack your bags and put you out in the snow and let you figure it out," they allegedly told Nicole. This manipulaton continued into her adulthood.
Contrary to the image that her father projects on social media of a loving dad, "he never bought me one birthday or Christmas gift," other than a bible or other spiritual material, Nicole says.
"Your spiritual growth is more important than your happiness," Jon allegedly told Nicole.
On several occasions, after either of his sons challenged his authority, Uhler would allegedly make the offending child sit in a bathtub filled with ice water and hold a bible while reciting verses of scripture. On other occasions, Uhler and his wife Patricia would allegedly spray the children with cold water, point large fans at them, and scream abuse.
I guess that explains why he's an expert on child abusers.
When Patricia Uhler committed sexual abuse against their sons, Uhler "didn't want to deal with it," according to Nicole, the oldest child. "Because Jon had taught us the legal definitions of overt sexual abuse," Patricia stopped short of genital stimulation or intercourse.
Both parents would "touch us anywhere, naked, when spanking us. As far as I know, Jon didn't touch any of our genitals directly, but Trish did, on multiple occasions."
Very Christian of him to love his enemy. I wonder why it didn't translate into his treatment of sex offenders? :? "Judge, lest ye be judged", was the expression wasn't it?
During 2016, Lane was in the throes of adolescence and began acting out against his abuse. According to Nicole, while Jon was out of the house one night, Patricia Uhler threatened to shoot Lane, then made a loud display of loading and charging a firearm in her bedroom.
Nicole says that Lane exited the home and ran away without even stopping for his shoes. Her brother ran barefoot to a nearby Panera Bread store where he worked and called his sister. "Mom is trying to shoot me,"" he allegedly told Nicole.
His crime had been to bring home the wrong item from the grocery store. Nicole was not surprised. "She threatened all of us, from six years old, that she would kill us with a gun," Nicole says.
Such wholesome family values. I see they felt very strongly about children.
During 2012, she recalls that her parents became obsessed with a set of highway signs in Pennsylvania which they believed were supposed to lead to rapture sites and FEMA concentration camps.
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"I don't think Jon was attracted to the doctrine" of the Grace Bible Fellowship church, our source says. Instead, Uhler "targeted our openness. We are by nature not suspicious. We do not judge. We are not legalistic."
It's this kind of thing that makes me think not everyone who gets involved in the child abuse industry is necessarily a bad person. For some, their good nature gets taken advantage of by people like Uhler, because who wouldn't want to protect children?
"Jon, I really hope you don't counsel too many people, you leave them worse off than you found them," Nevin finally told Uhler. In response, Uhler complained to the pastor. Talk of a group home "just got dropped" thereafter.
"There were huge questions in my mind about his integrity, and questions in my mind about his religious or secular authority," Nevin says. "I wouldn't have wanted him counseling folks in our church."
Faith in humanity restored, slightly?
Nevin says that Uhler would speak separately with each spouse, say different things to each, and suggest marital separation. Multiple sources in the Grace Bible Fellowship family say Uhler's couples counseling was destructive rather than helpful. One former co-worker of Uhler at a prison told The Distance that Uhler's advice was instrumental in the end of their own marriage.
I feel bad for them, but this is almost like a parody of a marriage counselor.
Uhler was interviewed on Feb. 17, and he admitted to signing three inmates' names on their individual recovery plans. He submitted these documents to act as if the inmates were in agreement with the plans, according to a probable-cause affidavit.
I wonder what gives people the feeling that they have the right to do stuff like that?
By impressing an especially pious tranche of 'gender critical' influencers, Jon Uhler hoped, and still hopes, to access vulnerable young females with 'gender identity' issues, especially detransitioners, to 'help' them recover supposed memories of horrific sexual abuse, possibly by satanists, and even 'help' to identify their 'alters,' or multiple personalities.
Uhler has discussed his fascinations with supposed satanic ritual abuse and multiple personalities ("dissociative identity disorder" or DID) in multiple YouTube interviews. He has tweeted historical revisionism in defense of these dubious past scandals. Jon Uhler is a satanic panic true believer, an ideological fossil of the McMartin Preschool trials and Sybil. Ask him about any of these topics, and you will discover a self-anointed expert on the 'real story' of a sinister cover-up to hide the truth behind these past moral panics.
I suspect that a lot of the problems we have today come from people still believing in debunked theories like these.
Instead, Uhler dramatizes prison conditions and positions himself as the main character in his own Netflix series. Having talked to Nicole as well as people at Grace Bible Fellowship, we have reason to worry about just what on earth Jon was actually doing to those inmates.
I think Uhler shows more clumsily, what's underneath most of the pedohunter/child abuse industry: fantasies derived from films.

Some of it was funny, but on the whole it was too long in my opinion.
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