Sessions bullcrap TOS propagates thoughtcrime concept

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KnightofHope
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Sessions bullcrap TOS propagates thoughtcrime concept

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Session is gaining popularity as a private and decentralised messanger.
Their new terms of service are a cause for concern.
As opposed to the rather bland TOS used by other instant messangers (only use this for authorised and acceptable purposes) these guys decided to get real specific.
I've no problem with them saying don't do terrorism. Here are the aggravating points.

"Session cannot be used to store or share.

illustrated, computer-generated or other forms of realistic depictions of a human child in a sexually explicit context, or engaging in sexually explicit acts;"

There goes the manga again.

"sexualized commentaries about or directed at a known or unknown minor;"

What the hell counts as sexualised commentary? How is a user directing this at someone if they're unknown. Very bizarre overreach.

"fantasies about or promoting engagement in child sexual exploitation;"

There it is folks, the session overlords say you can't have fantasies and the fact that it's on the same line means they equate fantasising with promoting engagement. Thus subtly affirming the concept of thoughtcrime.

While I have no dog in the fight for violent content, anyone remember rotten.com and shock sites? old internet rites of passage that apparently don't belong in the new sanitised totally private messanger.

The whole thing is a joke of course as they have laid down a bunch of terms with zero ability to enforce, except in public community spaces.

The fact that they went to these lengths while claiming to uphold free speech principles makes me want to subject them to an intellectual boycott.
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This is representative of a highly problematic trend toward banning public identification as a MAP, which makes community-building a massive struggle. Ironically, it keeps MAPs 'underground' and out of sight, and we can use this argument as a counter to such restrictions.

Of course, these companies just want to avoid any bad press and don't give a fuck about 'the children'.
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Riva
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It's an E2EE messenger. Who cares what the TOS says?
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FairBlueLove
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Well, we care because they are contributing to the narrative of thought-crime against MAPs, making the world for us more and more unbearable. Either we all go underground, as they want us to do, or we push back, which is what forum like this one are trying to do.
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FairBlueLove wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 4:25 pm Well, we care because they are contributing to the narrative of thought-crime against MAPs, making the world for us more and more unbearable. Either we all go underground, as they want us to do, or we push back, which is what forum like this one are trying to do.
Exactly! The only reason things never improve is because not enough people want to get their feet wet. But that is what needs to happen if we wish to be agents of change.
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Lennon72 wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 12:06 am
FairBlueLove wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 4:25 pm Well, we care because they are contributing to the narrative of thought-crime against MAPs, making the world for us more and more unbearable. Either we all go underground, as they want us to do, or we push back, which is what forum like this one are trying to do.
Exactly! The only reason things never improve is because not enough people want to get their feet wet. But that is what needs to happen if we wish to be agents of change.
Concretely though, sessions cannot enforce their TOS because its an encrypted messenger. Who cares what it says?
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