Why People Think Pedophilia is Wrong?

[Valerian]

I'm saying your explanation is too narrow. Some people could have come to this conclusion through that thought process, but the origins of this belief and its spread throughout society have a lot more to them than just cleanliness.

I am new new to the discussion form so find some difficulty to pointing to the post that I want to reply and the proper use of its quotation marks etc.

"just is cleanliness" ?? or feeling dirty or ashamed is just one reason, why common people regard pedophilia is taboo subject there are several more important reasons that makes the people regard it as a taboo behavior.
By the way thank you for the kind feedback.

[Valerian]

PorcelainLark

Thank you for your feed back. It is nice to read the peer reviews of like minded people.

[PorcelainLark]

PorcelainLark

Thank you for your feed back. It is nice to read the peer reviews of like minded people.

No trouble, if you want a proof reader or more feedback, feel free to ask. I hope my criticism was constructive.

[gingedu]

TLDR: Pedophilia is seen as wrong for a few reasons:

• Radical feminists view men's attraction to women as a threat to their saftey. Ergo, they see men's attraction to children as a threat to their saftey.
• People project the predatory and amoral way adults handle sex with each other onto a pedophile's interaction with children. They don't view children as having the agency or knowledge to assert themselves against predatory and manipulative adults like women do.
• Feeling as though the morals of society are being eroded away and that we are becoming more like animals.
• Hostility towards deviant sex legitimizes "normal" adult promiscuity.
• Keeping children in a traditional innocent role makes people feel like they have morals.

Women used to be seen as innocent, pure, naive, and vulnerable to the predatory desires of men. In order to protect a woman's virginity (which was seen as essential to their value), a woman was to only have sex within marriage.

Over the past two centuries there has been a pushback away from traditional values. Marriage is no longer required for sex. Women are given more agency and are seen as equal to men in society. Because of this, women are now seen to have the agency to "stand up to" and "defend themselves against" men's predatory behavior.

In addition to this laxing of traditional values, society now permits all kinds of behaviors under the notion that consent is all that is needed for something to be considered morally permissible. Now that sex is no longer tied to marriage, it permits a wide range of behaviors that were condemned in the past such as promiscuity, prostitution, incest, homosexuality, pornography, etc.

Consent-based morality is also problematic as it essentially allows women and men to behave like sociopaths. If the only thing defining consent is permission with a lack of force, pressure or coercion, then that allows people to use underhanded tactics to gain sex such as lies, manipulation and exploitation. It allows people to take advantage of others that are more naive and easy to manipulate. Women still see men's behavior as predatory and manipulative, but they are now seen to have the agency to deal with it. Women are no longer seen as naive and vulnerable - they now have their "guards up" when dealing with men.

Society subconsciously feels like they are heading down the path of moral decay, which is a remnant of puritanical guilt from earlier in our history. In response to this, society has become increasingly protective over children's "innocence" - attempting to protect them from the sin of the world, which they view as sex. Children are raised under a puritanical assumption that they are meant to be virgins until they are wed, at which point they will have sex only for procreation - just like women 100 years ago. Except nowadays, it is socially unacceptable to push traditional expectations on young adults, so the minute a child turns 18 parents avert their eyes, look away, and go "you're an adult now, you can do what you want." But those expectations will reappear at some point.

This allows people in society to feel like they still have moral standards. They may not have those standards for themselves, but putting them on their underage children makes people feel good about themselves. Anything that exposes children to sex as being something pleasurable is seen as "corrupting" them - because it sets them off the path of purity and toward a life of senseless hedonism, just like adults in society.

Young adults are seen as older children in a sense. Since they are above the legal age, people expect them to live free and wild, but then eventually fall in love with someone around the same age and get married. An older adult getting into a relationship with a young adult is stereotyped as taking them out of a carefree lifestyle and shackling them into a traditional role. Since again, people do not want young adults to have traditional responsibilities and expectations while they are young, this upsets many people.

Not only does society want to protect children from sex, they want to protect them from sexualization which can be as little as thoughts about children in a sexual light. This is why people in society are not only hostile towards those who show an attraction to children, but to those who they suspect show an attraction to youth itself. So even children and teenagers can be called pedophiles if their sexual interest is younger than normal. This would also include being attracted to young adults. Since children and young adults share youth in common - many paranoid people feel as though if an older person finds a young adult attractive, that attraction could somehow translate towards little kids.

They always say "men would go lower if they could" in regards to dating an 18 year old. This is true of course, but they fail to take into account that it's not just youth that men are interested it. It's a biological fact that men find post-pubescent features attractive. So while the age of attraction for most men would go lower, it's not like it would go further down into prepubescent age groups. People who shame men's sexuality like this are always careful to not mention this fact, because they don't want to lend legitimacy to the biological basis for attraction.

This faux concern over young adults disappears when they reach an age where they are no longer considered youthful looking - around 25. That's when all the concern over them being naive and dumb disappears, and they can now date people decades older than them. It's not that they have somehow attained new maturity or cognitive abilities at the age, it's because since they are no longer considered young and so attraction to them doesn't imply an attraction to youth.

[Outis]

I think there's a lot of assumptions here as to why people think it's wrong, I'd find it interesting to survey people and see what people actually think, especially by demographic.

I've heard different reasons in the past including these.

- Children are not sexual and are traumatised by sex. It's easy to disprove that children aren't sexual, just look at any forums for new parents dealing with masterbating and sexual kids. Or consider how many kids do have underage sex. As for trauma, there are plenty of examples of kids who and adults that report positive sexual experiences in their youth. But I don't think there's much reliable emperical evidence either way. I actually had someone tell me that kids can't lie, they are incapable of lying. That was said seriously in a different context but it highlights how people have very unrealstic views of kids.

- Sex is harmful to kids. Well it can be if it's a rape for example but it doesn't have to be and sex covers many things from masturbation to oral sex. I don't think this argument really holds water.

- Sex is addictive and shouldn't be something kids start on. I have heard this argument from a parent who expressed how in her own youth she had a high sex drive that was highly distracting. This is a real risk but like eating chocolate it can be managed.

I'm sure there are many other reasons used as well.

[PorcelainLark]

- Sex is addictive and shouldn't be something kids start on. I have heard this argument from a parent who expressed how in her own youth she had a high sex drive that was highly distracting. This is a real risk but like eating chocolate it can be managed.

I'm kind of skeptical of the idea of sex addiction. Is there good evidence for it? It feels like a post hoc justification for sex-negative thinking.

[Outis]

- Sex is addictive and shouldn't be something kids start on. I have heard this argument from a parent who expressed how in her own youth she had a high sex drive that was highly distracting. This is a real risk but like eating chocolate it can be managed.

I'm kind of skeptical of the idea of sex addiction. Is there good evidence for it? It feels like a post hoc justification for sex-negative thinking.

In that case it was one person who isn't a hardline anti or pro, just someone I know who said from around the age of 11 she spent most of her time chasing guys and no time studying which she attributes to her career issues. It might just be an excuse but she seemed to think her sex drive was a problem and something she struggled with. But how common that is I don't know.

[Valerian]

Thank you to Outis, PorcelainLark specially to Gingedu, have who have put their views on my post “why people think…” so eloquently, that I wish I had that ability but unfortunately I don’t. It takes long time for me and energy to put my views in a critical rational objective way on a piece of article, which I call on scientific grounds on the basis of available historical and other records evidences..

My main objective on the subject of pedophilia is to openly come out and tell all those Anti-pedo establishment scholars, advocates, the MSM as a whole, that their stand against pedophilia or their foundational proclamation that “children below a certain age, say 18 are INCAPABLE of giving informed sexual consent.” is a dogma, totally unscientific, fraudulent notion if not an outright lie and prove it on the objective scientific grounds even before a Judges in the court (on behalf of the people accused of pedophilia) to make them difficult to deny. If we (MAP advocates) able to prove it openly and most importantly on those MSM forums. I believe it will bring a vast change in the social attitude towards pedophilia in the general population. We need to boldly stand up and “CALL A SPADE A SPADE”.