How old is too old ?

[CL2025]

15

[Braulio]

I like them my age and older but the ones that turn me on the most are those of 12-15 with already attributes, but young girls

[Wolfman1]

15

[Fragment]

Tanner Stage 4. It has less to do with age and more to do with phenotype to me.

[WavesInEternity]

Tanner Stage 4. It has less to do with age and more to do with phenotype to me.

Pretty much the same for me. Though I can't stand any pubic hair at all.

Ultimately, being attracted to minors, in my experience, isn't a fixation on a certain number or number range. It's a deep love for a certain "pattern of human being", an aesthetic (in the broadest possible sense), a particular "look" and way of relating to reality, one involving curiosity, simplicity, untainted authenticity, playfulness, and a non-judgmental attitude. It's also an appreciation for a certain form of asymmetric relationship involving mutual love and respect, unilateral and unconditional protection of the child by the adult, and recognition of the child as an autonomous being capable of freely accepting or rejecting an adult's guidance.

If a 30-year-old woman had all those attributes and could offer me such an asymmetric bond, I could fall in love with her just as with an 11-year-old girl. Unfortunately, the unique way children perceive the world around them is even more often an early casualty of time than the physical appearance that is typical of them*.

In my experience, it just might be possible to preserve most key psychoemotional attributes of childhood for a very long time, and perhaps indefinitely, as well as bring them back, in some autopedophilic women blessed with a very happy past, provided that this is their sincere desire, and most importantly that the adult partner be flawless, or very close to flawless, in his (or her) protection of the "spiritual girl-child's" happiness. It requires strong willpower and efforts on both parts, and the older the girl/woman, the harder it gets. But it can be done. I succeeded for about 5 years (she was 25 when it started to break down, and my own inadequacies are to blame for it). I hope to do much better next time.


* In that respect, for hebephiles like myself at least, quite a few petite young women exhibit truly remarkable neoteny, the Japanese being a striking example. In all cases, adequate clothes/hairstyle, exhaustive depilation, and even some cosmetic surgery can do small wonders. My autopedophile ex-girlfriend had her vulva surgically reshaped so it looks like a little girl's, and she was seriously considering breast reduction (from B-cup to AA-cup), wearing tight sports bras in the meantime. Add short pigtails, blunt bangs, a childish pyjama-like sundress, and small rectangular glasses with strawberries on the side branches, and you get the picture.

[Fragment]

https://forum.map-union.org/viewtopic.php?t=28

I posted this back in the early days of the forum. The question is gone (due to my freak out where I deleted all my posts from the board). But basically "if the person was numerically 80, but physically 7/10/13 would you be interested?"

Obviously most people said yes. It's not numbers that turn us on.

[WavesInEternity]

https://forum.map-union.org/viewtopic.php?t=28

I posted this back in the early days of the forum. The question is gone (due to my freak out where I deleted all my posts from the board). But basically "if the person was numerically 80, but physically 7/10/13 would you be interested?"

Obviously most people said yes. It's not numbers that turn us on.

Cool. That was my strong impression, I'm glad to see it confirmed.

If anything, the age of consent and age of majority are precisely what might make some numbers become fetishized by some people—we only have to look at the huge peak of pornographic content featuring 18-year-olds. In and of themselves, chronophilias aren't really about age.

What surprised me, though, was to realize that I didn't require a hypothetical cryogenics machine to have a 20-year-old that looks and acts very much like a 14/15-year-old (the age people usually thought my ex-girlfriend was by looks alone)... that it was actually possible through picking the right girl, having the same (symmetric) desires, a lot of willpower, and careful adjustments to our relational dynamic.