Morality of AI generated CP

[lglove]

Today its possible with a variety of different methods and AI models to generate photo realistic images that are indistinguishable from reality to the average person. The way AI models work is that the database is trained on millions of real images. Of course there are people that are creating their own custom models trained on real cp, but for the sake of this conversation, im focusing on the publicly available models that are "clean". it is still however possible to create naked children with a "clean" model.

What is your thought about the morality surrounding this topic? Or even the morality surrounding normal art that is created with AI, is it stealing from the artists work that the model is trained on? similarly, are you "abusing" the real girls the model is trained on if you create naked children?

[Jim Burton]

Note to users, this will be a discussion of the morality of AI models. It is permissible to discuss how they work, but not to identify or direct other users to a particular piece of software, or give advice on how to operate software that might be used to create prohibited images.

[LittlePrincessLover]

It seems a lot of AI art being made of little girls is partly clothed. Clothed but still erotic anyway. There’s a lot of stuff apparently no worse than real preteen girls are uploading every day like bikini and underwear photos. When it comes to that stuff I think it should all be considered fine even if the photo is intended to sexually arouse. So especially with AI of that kind of thing it should be fully permitted.

As for less borderline stuff there’s no real little girl directly involved so nothing real is happening. I’d argue you can’t hold people accountable for things that aren’t real and didn’t happen. So there’s no fair case to make it illegal or call it immoral.

[Fragment]

Totally moral.

Should be legal.

Maybe some small protections regarding the creation of deep fakes.

[lglove]

Totally moral.

Should be legal.

Maybe some small protections regarding the creation of deep fakes.

Yeah that was what i was thinking as well. Deepfakes and face swap methods can for sure be problematic.

[Harlan]

Is it moral to make and use sex toys and sex dolls? Why is it okay to have an adult sex doll but not an minor one ? Why is the owner of an adult sex doll perceived as a miserable, harmless, sexually inferior person, while the owner of an minor doll is perceived as a dangerous rapist ? Nobody tells horror stories about adult sex dolls and BDSM equipment causing rape and torture of real people. Adults are allowed to film their masturbation and show it to everyone and everyone knows that minors also watch adult videos and masturbate. But the same video, filmed by a minor on his own camera, for some reason causes panic.

From all this it follows that the problem is not pornography or AI, the problem is the taboo on youth sexuality itself, otherwise there would be no double standards of restrictions on sex dolls and AI content.

[neveragain72]

Is it moral to make and use sex toys and sex dolls? Why is it okay to have an adult sex doll but not an minor one ? Why is the owner of an adult sex doll perceived as a miserable, harmless, sexually inferior person, while the owner of an minor doll is perceived as a dangerous rapist ? Nobody tells horror stories about adult sex dolls and BDSM equipment causing rape and torture of real people. Adults are allowed to film their masturbation and show it to everyone and everyone knows that minors also watch adult videos and masturbate. But the same video, filmed by a minor on his own camera, for some reason causes panic.

From all this it follows that the problem is not pornography or AI, the problem is the taboo on youth sexuality itself, otherwise there would be no double standards of restrictions on sex dolls and AI content.

I actually agree with you. I mean in my country it was considered a huge problem that youth did sexting. Youth sending each other erotic messages with or without photos they had taken of themselves. Back then i asked my own children if they did it too. At first the didn't want to admit it of course. But if you find a phone stand which is used to make full body selfies. I felt i needed to talk with them. Not to forbid them, just to warn them to send only pictures to people they trusted fully.