Pedophilia Will Never Be Normalized So What's The Point of This Forum?

[Curson]

I think the best way forward for acceptance and normalization would definitely be along the lines of a youth rights movement or an ageless movement that recognizes that tweens and teens are not children, and are thus able to make their own decisions and date whoever they want to.

Additionally, recognizing that anyone regardless of age can be abused or groomed by definition. It doesn't mean that simply because someone is older that they have malicious intent towards others or want to cause harm.

It would stop all of this nonsense about age gaps and pedo hysteria.

[HumanBeing]

If you think that why are you even bothering about posting here?, you know that having an account on MAP websites is already a risk right?, why do you take that risk if you think its worthless?

I don't mind you venting, but dragging others into your own depression is just disgusting

[G@yWad69]

If you think that why are you even bothering about posting here?, you know that having an account on MAP websites is already a risk right?, why do you take that risk if you think its worthless?

I don't mind you venting, but dragging others into your own depression is just disgusting

I agree, this post seems suspicously pessimistic, almost like it was made by an anti.

“Waah, we are an oppressed minority, and as we can tell by the countless examples from history of oppressed minorities, there has absolutely never EVER been a time in history where a hated and scapegoated minority has ever been accepted by society. America stills burns witches at the stake, still whips black people on plantations, still imprisons communists and still lights gay people on fire for practicing sodomy. Society has never EVER changed their opinion on any marginalized group ever and is in fact incapable of change.”

Like bro, be so fucking for real.

Its not even like anyone is asking for you to be a happy go lucky optimist who thinks that nepiophillia will be legalized by 2026. Just dont be so pessimistic that you become straight up unrealistic and blatantly lie about the reality of society. Newsflash, cultural norms and what is considered moral or immoral by society are constantly changing and evolving. Childhood didnt even exist for the majority of society. The concept of adolecence was created in the 1800s by some random guy named Stanly Hall. The age of consenr and the age of majority are constantly changing, if they even exist at all. In 30 years, anyone under 30 may be considered a child, in 30 years, anyone over 7 may be considered an adult. Maybe scientiffic advancements will extend human life so that we live to 120 on average, and anything under 60 will be young adulthood or childhood. Maybe a mass plague, similar to covid 19 will wipe out a good chunk of humanity and reduce the average lifespan to 58. The point is, you dont fucking know what will happen, and to claim that you not only can predict the future, but predict a future were absolutely nothing will change and everything will be the exact same as it was centuries ago with absolutely no progress whatsoever, is the stupidest shit ive ever heard.

Do you think black people in the 1800s had happy dandy lives on plantations? “Oh im being whipped daily and forced to pick cotton butt naked in chains, gee life is so swell, I bet in 5 years we will be seen as human beings and even be able to run for president!” No, because that would be fucking stupid. If anything, I would say we have an eaisier time being accepted by society than black people had, so to claim that nothing will change when black people went from being fed to alligators and even straight up eaten by their slave masters to running for president is literally idiotic.

You think im joking? Slave masters used to feed black infants to alligators. They used to rape the strongest male to establish “dominance”. They used to stuff their furniture with the hair of black people. They would even straight up eat their slaves in some instances, and all this was fully accepted and supported by society. So it makes perfect sense to you that black people can overcome all of that but because you might spend a two decades in prison and get mean comments online for sucking boy dick that we can never overcome our oppression EVER?!?

Widespread culture change takes time, and to whine like a little toddler “if the age of majority isnt abolished by 2027 it means we have made absolutely ZERO progress and will NEVER be accepted by society and should all just keel over and die”. Imagine if the chattel slaves in chains on ships had that mentality? Thats such a pathetic mentallity. Just because you dont get everything you want the minute you want it doesnt mean you will never get it. Newsflash, we are an OPRESSED minority, the shit that your complaining about is the OPRESSED part. If antis didnt make our lives living hell, then we wouldnt be OPRESSED now would we? Every minority group thats been oppressed has gone through the exact same shit we have gone through. We arent special. They did the same shit with the gays and the blacks and the jews and the commies and the witches. They were all evil, monstorous, abusive demons that needed to be genocided from the general population.And each time they claimed it was different. “Oh we only want to commit mass genocide and torture and abuse on “insert minority here” because unlike the last “insert minority here”, this minority group are evil violent monsters who want to destroy innocent people. Pedos arent special, and neither were any other group that society universally agreed were evil monsters who needed to die. Shit, in 50 years they might lock people up in prison for robot or alien fucking. And on the former severly opressed groups, what happened? Did they die? No, they survived, and not only did they survive, but they thrived. Is it perfect everywhere? No, but they made significant progress and are still making progress to this day. Imagine if some looser said to Martin Luther King “all the whites hate us and we will never be accepted by society so why dont we all just give up and go cry ourselves to sleep”. Absolutely ridiculous

Moral panics and social hysterias dont last forever. And if you think that committing goverment funded genocide on a minority group for things like “minor coded” anime girls and willing blowjobs is anything but hysteria, idk what to tell you. If you think that is not only sustainable, but sustainable at the dramtic rate that the hysteria is increasing, you are brainwashed. Society has two options, either 100% commit themsleves to eliminating all traces of minor attraction and go full 1984 and cause the collapse of society, or chill the fuck out. Either option society picks, it will open up a giant weak spot for pedos to exploit.

Do you really think in a future where the world is collapsing due to global warming, or where we fight alien wars in space, or were we have alternate matrix style realities, that we will have time to hunt for people who watch lolicon and give teen boys handjobs? That persecuting MILF on teen boy blowjobs will stay societies top priority until the sun explodes in a million something years?

[Hotpocket]

If you think that why are you even bothering about posting here?, you know that having an account on MAP websites is already a risk right?, why do you take that risk if you think its worthless?

I don't mind you venting, but dragging others into your own depression is just disgusting

I agree, this post seems suspicously pessimistic, almost like it was made by an anti.

“Waah, we are an oppressed minority, and as we can tell by the countless examples from history of oppressed minorities, there has absolutely never EVER been a time in history where a hated and scapegoated minority has ever been accepted by society. America stills burns witches at the stake, still whips black people on plantations, still imprisons communists and still lights gay people on fire for practicing sodomy. Society has never EVER changed their opinion on any marginalized group ever and is in fact incapable of change.”

Like bro, be so fucking for real.

Its not even like anyone is asking for you to be a happy go lucky optimist who thinks that nepiophillia will be legalized by 2026. Just dont be so pessimistic that you become straight up unrealistic and blatantly lie about the reality of society. Newsflash, cultural norms and what is considered moral or immoral by society are constantly changing and evolving. Childhood didnt even exist for the majority of society. The concept of adolecence was created in the 1800s by some random guy named Stanly Hall. The age of consenr and the age of majority are constantly changing, if they even exist at all. In 30 years, anyone under 30 may be considered a child, in 30 years, anyone over 7 may be considered an adult. Maybe scientiffic advancements will extend human life so that we live to 120 on average, and anything under 60 will be young adulthood or childhood. Maybe a mass plague, similar to covid 19 will wipe out a good chunk of humanity and reduce the average lifespan to 58. The point is, you dont fucking know what will happen, and to claim that you not only can predict the future, but predict a future were absolutely nothing will change and everything will be the exact same as it was centuries ago with absolutely no progress whatsoever, is the stupidest shit ive ever heard.

Do you think black people in the 1800s had happy dandy lives on plantations? “Oh im being whipped daily and forced to pick cotton butt naked in chains, gee life is so swell, I bet in 5 years we will be seen as human beings and even be able to run for president!” No, because that would be fucking stupid. If anything, I would say we have an eaisier time being accepted by society than black people had, so to claim that nothing will change when black people went from being fed to alligators and even straight up eaten by their slave masters to running for president is literally idiotic.

You think im joking? Slave masters used to feed black infants to alligators. They used to rape the strongest male to establish “dominance”. They used to stuff their furniture with the hair of black people. They would even straight up eat their slaves in some instances, and all this was fully accepted and supported by society. So it makes perfect sense to you that black people can overcome all of that but because you might spend a two decades in prison and get mean comments online for sucking boy dick that we can never overcome our oppression EVER?!?

Widespread culture change takes time, and to whine like a little toddler “if the age of majority isnt abolished by 2027 it means we have made absolutely ZERO progress and will NEVER be accepted by society and should all just keel over and die”. Imagine if the chattel slaves in chains on ships had that mentality? Thats such a pathetic mentallity. Just because you dont get everything you want the minute you want it doesnt mean you will never get it. Newsflash, we are an OPRESSED minority, the shit that your complaining about is the OPRESSED part. If antis didnt make our lives living hell, then we wouldnt be OPRESSED now would we? Every minority group thats been oppressed has gone through the exact same shit we have gone through. We arent special. They did the same shit with the gays and the blacks and the jews and the commies and the witches. They were all evil, monstorous, abusive demons that needed to be genocided from the general population.And each time they claimed it was different. “Oh we only want to commit mass genocide and torture and abuse on “insert minority here” because unlike the last “insert minority here”, this minority group are evil violent monsters who want to destroy innocent people. Pedos arent special, and neither were any other group that society universally agreed were evil monsters who needed to die. Shit, in 50 years they might lock people up in prison for robot or alien fucking. And on the former severly opressed groups, what happened? Did they die? No, they survived, and not only did they survive, but they thrived. Is it perfect everywhere? No, but they made significant progress and are still making progress to this day. Imagine if some looser said to Martin Luther King “all the whites hate us and we will never be accepted by society so why dont we all just give up and go cry ourselves to sleep”. Absolutely ridiculous

Moral panics and social hysterias dont last forever. And if you think that committing goverment funded genocide on a minority group for things like “minor coded” anime girls and willing blowjobs is anything but hysteria, idk what to tell you. If you think that is not only sustainable, but sustainable at the dramtic rate that the hysteria is increasing, you are brainwashed. Society has two options, either 100% commit themsleves to eliminating all traces of minor attraction and go full 1984 and cause the collapse of society, or chill the fuck out. Either option society picks, it will open up a giant weak spot for pedos to exploit.

Do you really think in a future where the world is collapsing due to global warming, or where we fight alien wars in space, or were we have alternate matrix style realities, that we will have time to hunt for people who watch lolicon and give teen boys handjobs? That persecuting MILF on teen boy blowjobs will stay societies top priority until the sun explodes in a million something years?

Bro it's a simple fucking question no need to trip. I stated that I support relationships between adults and kids but instead of complaining about my question. Instead of accusing me of being a anti even though you know I'm not based on the few conversations we've had, just debate my question. If we're trying to normalize being a map just like the LGBT was able to be so normalized that they have their own movies, tv shows, cartoons, parades, video games, even super heroes now. I never stated that pedophilia is disgusting and this and that, I said do you really think being a map will ever be accepted. I was reflecting my own perspective of being on the agenda of this forum. The last time we talked when I made that post about the golden era I stated that I wish we could be free about our attractions but we live in a society where that can get you killed and you agreed. I truly believe that their are map's in high places that are trying to make changes but when they try a mob erupts. Look at it this way, when Modern Family came to television, it was still a time where hate crimes against gays were common. Gays being denied work was common. Public humiliation of gays were common. Etcetera. Then Modern Family came to the scene and homosexuality quickly became socially acceptable. Within five years later homosexual marriage was legalized nationally. And everyone who worked on that show went on to have incredible careers. The creator of the show is an amazing legacy. The moral of what I'm saying is now Netflix tried to do the same thing with Cuties and look what happened. Netflix lost over a hundred million subscribers and hundreds of millions of dollars. They ended up having to fire half of their staff and it took years to recover from that lost. The company that runs Modern Family, was ABC, which is owned by Disney. Now, do you really believe that CBS, or NBC, or whatever, is going to really make a TV show that supports a relationship between a man and an infant? On Modern Family, there are multiple times where the gay married couple kissed. Do you think any of the high-level networks are really going to allow a show where a 30-year-old man French kisses a 6-month-old baby? I watch a lot of Map propaganda, but it's usually low-budget, independent companies, not even companies, just filmmakers that are making it with the little money they have and are only able to post it on platforms like Tubi and other streaming services that need people who are willing to upload their projects for little to no money. And so, with that said, we live in a world where if you're a registered sex offender because of something regarding minors, they won't hire you, even if the job has nothing to do with children, like being a garbage man. We live in a world where violence against maps are still common. I mean, there was a case where a woman didn't like that her daughter was dating this guy in her class. And so, the couple were only three weeks apart, literally were born three weeks apart. But because he was 18, the mom was still able to turn him in. And when he went to jail, he was brutally murdered. Literally, three weeks fucking difference. Bro, you know me, we've met on this forum a few times. If we could talk privately, like if I could message you privately, you know I would because I've liked you since you came onto the platform. I want to talk to you if that's ok but I don't know how. Like I said in my post, I love this community. I love being a map. I love my culture. I love everything about this world. I love all of you guys. But why are you guys bullying me when I simply was just having a state of crisis at one point where I thought to myself, why are we talking about normalizing it when there's a possibility that that can't happen? Not that we shouldn't keep trying, but more so my question was, and maybe I should have been more clear about this, and I'm sorry that I wasn't, that what if we should transition the agenda to something else? Something more realistic. Not that we should give up and all kill ourselves and yada yada, but more so, why are we doing this? I personally believe that there's going to have to be a race war scenario between MAPs and anti's because there's just too many of us. I mean, I genuinely believe we take up 45% of the population, if not more. And science has proven that men are attracted to females after they hit puberty. That's what my psychologist told me, who has three daughters and would never touch them in any way, nor let anyone else do that to them. And so it's also been proven by many, many women that they got horny when breastfeeding their babies. And so pedophilia is natural, it is normal. And so we are going to have to accept us or kill us all. I guess when I posted this, I was in a state of panic and depression because I was just having this crazy existential crisis. Little princess, I would love to be friends with you. And if you truly believe I'm an auntie, go to my post, go to my first post, and read about me being doxxed. And once you know my story about how I lost everything and everyone I've ever loved, and that I've considered on multiple occasions, of giving my life to being a MAP activist, of just going public and making a podcast, and I'll leave other platforms to make us heard, you know? And so I don't know. I don't know. I'm just going through a lot, and if you guys want me to take down this post, I will. I just wanted to get your guys' opinion. I'm sorry if I offended any of you and you guys didn't have to punch down on me. I was just giving an honest question.

[Liyowo]

You're good, Batmanthecute, I think many of us can relate to what you said and I know I certainly do. Have a virtual hug from me!

[bnkywuv]

I have hope it will be normalized. As others have pointed out, several things that were once considered impossible became possible. It's already being talked about online, and what goes on the internet stays on the internet.

[msykm99]

If this forum didn’t exist, pedos and antis wouldn’t come to an understanding. Rape isn’t okay. Coercion apparently isn’t okay either. Putting a child thru forceful pain is also not okay. What does a pedo have left? Thats the million dollar question.

[ReArm!]

If this forum didn’t exist, pedos and antis wouldn’t come to an understanding. Rape isn’t okay. Coercion apparently isn’t okay either. Putting a child thru forceful pain is also not okay. What does a pedo have left? Thats the million dollar question.

Yeah, forcing your will onto others, be them minors or not, is wrong, but that's not what this forum or any others are about. If we are pro-c is precisely because we think that the notion that a minor cannot consent is absurd.

What do pedophiles have left? Easy answer, Consensual sex!

[zarkle]

Pedophillia will never be accepted you say? Even like teo or three decades ago, having sex with underaged teenagers was perfectly normal and accepted by society. Your fatal flaw is the belief that moral panics last forever. Did you now the age of consent used to be as low as SEVEN quite recently in America? I will never understand the claim that “pedophillia will NEVER be accpeted”. Imagine if black people picking cotton on platantians just gave up because “racial equality will NEVER be accepted”. Imagine thier shock if you told them that one if our most recent presidents was black? Imagine if the gays being exiled from society and burned alive in rugs just gave up because “gays will NEVER be accepted”. Imagine how they would laugh at you if you told them that gay people are now a protected legal class. Imagine if you told jews being gassed alive in nazi camps that a couple decades later that germany would end up treating them even better than non jewish germans. Or if you told communists during the red scare that communism would now be a “based” and extremely common and respected leftist viewpoint. Your fatal flaw is your belief that humanity is stagnant and incapable of change. You can keep believing that delusion, or be realistic

Not to mention that pedophobia is a hysteria, and hysterias are unsistainable in the long term. Now we have middle aged men being shamed and villified for finding women in their late 20s attractive. 17 year olds being “cancelled” for “grooming” 15 year olds. 14 year olds being called predators for “sexualizing” minors the same age or older than them. Mass censorship and survillence of the internet and the destruction of anonimity to “protect” minors from sex and “catch” “pedophiles”.Father getting accused of child abuse for holding hands with thier underaged daughters in public. Men getting the police called on them for compimenting minors, not sexually, a literal platonic basic compliment. Minors threatining random adults with axes and knives on the street and getting away with it by falsely accusing every man of being a pedo. Any non white, unventionally attractive, or older man getting called a pedo and having the mob sent on them at the drop of a hat. People saying that 17 year olds are children because they are under 18. People saying that 20 year olds are children because they are under 21. People saying that 24 year olds are children because they are under the magical brain development age of 25. People saying that Leonardo Decaprio is “grooming” an innocent 28 year old child. People going to prison in places like australia for making porn of women with small tits or writing “problamatic” works of fiction. Thats not sustainable.

Its not a question of “how much does western society and other first world countries currently hate pedophillia in the modern day, but a question of “is this sustainable in the long run?” “Will society be able to keep functioning while keeping the same amount of hysteria and fearmongering towards pedos?” The answer is no, obviously not. There are too options, either society continues its hysterical opression of pedophiles and we end up with a collapsing 1984 style society, where children wear burkas to keep from prying eyes and get monthly checks to make sure they are still virgins, where fathers are expected to abandon their families and avoid any caretaking roles or giving any affection to their kids, lest they be seen as “p3d0s”. Where people are given the death penalty over fictional anime lolis and fanfiction. Where children are kept in a seperate society from the childless gen pop lest a “pedo” tries to interact with them and are only allowed to interact with adults like parents and doctors under strict supervision from the cops. Where everyone online has to give their ids and is watched by the goverment to make sure that no online “grooming” happens. That is NOT a sustainable society. Society WILL collapse if pedohysteria and pedophobia keeps escalating the way it does. So society, once again, has too options. Either continue with the hysteria and fear and get so paranoid towards pedophillia and everything even vaguely related to pedophillia that society collapses, or ease up on the insanity for the survival of our country, if they choose the first option. Oh well, whatever, humanity is a blight on our planet anyways, we will just have to rebuild society from scratch. Or if they pick the second option, the SECOND they ease back is when we strike full force.

>Will society be able to keep functioning while keeping the same amount of hysteria and fearmongering towards pedos?” The answer is no, obviously not

I believe the hate is partially fueled by parental protection instincts. The same neurocircuits that wild animals use to protect their young from getting eaten are activated in humans when they read about child sex abuse crimes.

>That is NOT a sustainable society.

your 1984 scenario is a funny but I don't think most of that will happen, but I do believe right wing states might put the death penalty on victimless crimes like softcore no contact CP even if AI only. That in itself validates a fraction of what you said.

>Pedophillia will never be accepted you say? Even like two or three decades ago, having sex with underaged teenagers was perfectly normal and accepted by society. Your fatal flaw is the belief that moral panics last forever. Did you now the age of consent used to be as low as SEVEN quite recently in America?

The AoC being low as 7 in colonial Delware was mostly for marriage not sex, the men in those cases probably waited till teen years for sex. It was called the "maiden doctrine"" back in those days all sex outside of marriage was thought of as evil and degenerate and a sin before God. Much like any sex before 18 is seen today. It was one man one women for life. The person who married a 7 year old would have stuck with her till he was 75 (death due us part). And further more back in those days that 7yo marriage was an extreme cases to the local societies at the time, but to be fair yes, early teen year marriages were not common but they were tolerated and accepted back in the day. The point is prepubescent sex and even romance and appreciation was always taboo.

The best way to look at it is this, all historic societies tolerated mid teenagers being sexual. Many exclusively to marriage/ritual. But most viewed prepubescent attraction as taboo and unhealthy and western society is extremely punitive about it. In my eyes this is a reflection of the instinct, the same ancient neurocircuits to protect animals from getting eaten are used in the modern world during CSA news reports. I don't believe anti pedo hate is exclusive to the west/colonialism.

>told communists during the red scare that communism would now be a “based” and extremely common and respected leftist viewpoint.

There is nothing based about central planning, violating small buisness owners property rights and a us vs. them story that supposedly traces back throughout all of human history. I am not rejecting communism on bigotted right wing grounds, (I dislike MAGOTS too) I am rejecting it on historical evidence and neuro science. Marxism is just another us vs them with authoritarianism fiction.

[oolhlh2]

Being a map will never be accepted, and that's okay but what's the agenda to this forum then?

Providing a safe space where like-minded people can share their struggles being a MAP. Yeah I agree with you that society will never change their stance on pedophilia, for better or worse.

There is nothing better than being able to talk about MAP stuff and not get told to off yourself afterwards lol