The notion of MAPs as sadists

[Lightie Twinkle]

I meant regardless of whether they (the sadist) acts or just has the impulse or fantasy based on hurting someone. There is no behavioural test for being a sadist, outside of criminological categories, e.g. the idea that zoosadistic behaviour is a precursor to sadistic offending.

I can tell you that I am not a sadist since I don't derive pleasure for forcing or hurting someone thus I don't do it since I don't have that desire to begin with. No all Nepis are sadistic, no all Sadists are Acting-Sadists, so I don't see reason for unequal treatment for people who aren't doing anything wrong. And the ones who are being misunderstood.

I guess the notion of MAPs as Sadist follows from some MAPs to Nepis too.

[Jim Burton]

I meant regardless of whether they (the sadist) acts or just has the impulse or fantasy based on hurting someone. There is no behavioural test for being a sadist, outside of criminological categories, e.g. the idea that zoosadistic behaviour is a precursor to sadistic offending.

I can tell you that I am not a sadist since I don't derive pleasure for forcing or hurting someone thus I don't do it since I don't have that desire to begin with. No all Nepis are sadistic, no all Sadists are Acting-Sadists, so I don't see reason for unequal treatment for people who aren't doing anything wrong. And the ones who are being misunderstood.

I guess the notion of MAPs as Sadist follows from some MAPs to Nepis too.

Is it not necessary to treat the groups unequally in order to hold them to the same standard? You said it - not all sadists are practicing sadists, and it would be incredibly hard to argue that e.g. pro-c biastophiles can be granted the same choices, as, say teleiophiles. Since their choice would be a nonconsensual partner they could rape. For me, a mature and effective alliance accepts these basic facts instead of pandering to egalitarian delusions, such as pretending zoosadism is equivalent to hebephilia, as if both are kinks that exist on the same degree of abnormality with similar degrees of consent.

There are causes that I, as a gay man have in common with nepis, sadists and biastophiles. But it's better to be honest about what those are, and where I honestly believe I have privilege over many paraphiles (e.g. my partners can give verbal enthusiastic consent). Better than pandering a delusion.