The problem with the “vampire” theory

[G@yWad43]

A popular myth that gets on my fucking nerves is the “vampire” theory. That maps are maps because they were indoctrinated as a child by maps, creating a new cycle of evil monsters.

1.This theory makes no sense. If having sex with an adult as a kid makes you into kids, then having sex with a human as a kid must make you into animals. Having sex with an alive human must make you into a necrophile. But thats obviously stupid and makes no fucking sense to explain zoophiles or necrophiles, so why would it make sense for pedophiles?

2.The scientific research that antis claim that they support and base their opinions on has proven time and time and again that pedophillia has zero connection to former expiernces of amsc. In fact, new research is showing that pedophillia is hardwired, most likely developing in utero, at least in incarcerted populations, aka, the ones getting imprisoned for having amsc in the first place. Its gotten to the point that even incarcerated pedos are lying about expiernces of amsc in order to gain sympathy from antis, yet when they get hooked up to a lie detector test, they take back their claims. Even non pedo antis who claim that they “survived” having sex with an adult as a minor are saying that theory is bullshit and makes all adults who had amsc as minors out to be closeted pedos(which is true in some cases, just not in the way antis think). But of course “listen to all victims” only applies when the victims dont challenge your worldview, so they get ignored.

3.The view that pedophillia comes from pedophiles is just mapphobic and anti intergenerational love bs. They view intergenerational sex as an evil so great that it will permanently ruin you forever and give you a fate worse than death itself. And whats a fate worse than death itself to antis? Being a pedo. Part of the hysteria that antis have culminated is by simply blaming anything they dont like on intergenerational sex. Mysognistic asshole? You were probably molested. Crooked toenail? You were probably molested. Fear of clowns? Get checked for molestation. Cancer of the pancreas? A pedophile probably molested you, huh? And what do they dislike more than anything? Pedophiles. Its easy to keep up the hatred of pedophiles if pedophiles will convert your sweet innocent baby boy into a disgusting, monstrous pedo himself, despite how scientifically invalid that theory is.

4. It furthers the belief that pedophillia is a learned behavior or based on “tHe PaTrIarChY”, and that pedophiles are choosing our “disgusting” and “evil” attractions instead of it being an innate inborn sexual preference that becomes fully realized during puberty.

4.Gives an easy path for antis who have had amsc to deny their inner feelings. I have seen so many “totally not pedo” “survivors” of adult-minor sex blame all their mappy feelings on the sex they had one time a couple decades ago. And the rest of the antis refuse to question it because it furthers their belief that intergen sex is inherently life ruining, that pedos are contagious monsters who destroy kids, and of course, they dont want to be accused of “victim blaming” no matter how improbable and unlikely victim claims are. The “totally not pedo, I just have pedo urges and fantisies because-uhhh-trauma!” go into great detail about their fantasies for minors and their desire for an adult-minor relationship, but whenever anyone calls them out of for being suspiciously mappy they just blame it on their “trauma”. And as we all know, the term “csa” is extremely broad, so “csa” could describe anything from being locked in a sex dungeon in a basement for a decade from the age of 3 by a kidnapper, to willingly touching a 20 year olds boobs at the age of 17. Its gotten to the point that even anime girls and ai renderings are a form of csa. All three of those expiernces are equally “traumatic” and “abusive” to the average anti. So we get ridicolous situations such as a very obviously pedo “csa survivor” going into explicit detail all their secret pedo fantasies, then denying their blatant pedophillia and blaming it on their “trauma”. And the trauma in question is accidently stumbling on their dads adult porno stash once when they were 14. Then they go on an equally long rant in explicit detail describing how much they hate pedos and want them to die for giving them these “evil“ thoughts, despite the science, the same science that they hold so dearly when it gives them an excuse to uncritically bash pedos and intergen sex, also proving that an attraction to minors is innate and not environmental, that childhood expiernces have very little, if anything, to do with adult attractions, except for possibly “awakening” already existing but dormant feelings. That if you have pedophilic fantasies, its not “trauma”, its pedophillia. But of course that would cause far too much cognitive dissonance and create too many questions and challenge the validity of the csa hysteria, so these claims go unquestioned.

These reasons are why anytime I see a bullshit claim of “I hate those filthy pedos and im totally not a pedo even though I have a primary or exclusive attraction to prepubsecent children its all those nasty evil pedos for giving me these thoughts” or “Those sick disgusting pedos are only pedos because sick disgusting pedos made them pedos, which is why we need to genocide-I mean eradicate all pedos so that they dont convert new pedos” I always call them out on it.

[PorcelainLark]

I'd like to preface this by saying, I think the idea that pedophilia comes from being abused as a child is false. I don't believe anyone develops their attraction from abuse. However, I would make the case slightly differently.

1.This theory makes no sense. If having sex with an adult as a kid makes you into kids, then having sex with a human as a kid must make you into animals. Having sex with an alive human must make you into a necrophile. But thats obviously stupid and makes no fucking sense to explain zoophiles or necrophiles, so why would it make sense for pedophiles?

I think there are more sexual interactions between adults who experience sexual interactions as a child, and children. However, the explanation is trivial - if you experience sexual interactions with an adult as a child, you will be less inhibited towards children as you get older. It's not that it makes you attracted towards children, it makes you less sexually inhibited towards children.

2.The scientific research that antis claim that they support and base their opinions on has proven time and time and again that pedophillia has zero connection to former expiernces of amsc. In fact, new research is showing that pedophillia is hardwired, most likely developing in utero, at least in incarcerted populations, aka, the ones getting imprisoned for having amsc in the first place. Its gotten to the point that even incarcerated pedos are lying about expiernces of amsc in order to gain sympathy from antis, yet when they get hooked up to a lie detector test, they take back their claims. Even non pedo antis who claim that they “survived” having sex with an adult as a minor are saying that theory is bullshit and makes all adults who had amsc as minors out to be closeted pedos(which is true in some cases, just not in the way antis think). But of course “listen to all victims” only applies when the victims dont challenge your worldview, so they get ignored.

Largely agree.

3.The view that pedophillia comes from pedophiles is just mapphobic and anti intergenerational love bs. They view intergenerational sex as an evil so great that it will permanently ruin you forever and give you a fate worse than death itself. And whats a fate worse than death itself to antis? Being a pedo. Part of the hysteria that antis have culminated is by simply blaming anything they dont like on intergenerational sex. Mysognistic asshole? You were probably molested. Crooked toenail? You were probably molested. Fear of clowns? Get checked for molestation. Cancer of the pancreas? A pedophile probably molested you, huh? And what do they dislike more than anything? Pedophiles. Its easy to keep up the hatred of pedophiles if pedophiles will convert your sweet innocent baby boy into a disgusting, monstrous pedo himself, despite how scientifically invalid that theory is.

Agreed, but it doesn't add to why the theory is false, only why it's immoral.

4.Gives an easy path for antis who have had amsc to deny their inner feelings. I have seen so many “totally not pedo” “survivors” of adult-minor sex blame all their mappy feelings on the sex they had one time a couple decades ago. And the rest of the antis refuse to question it because it furthers their belief that intergen sex is inherently life ruining, that pedos are contagious monsters who destroy kids, and of course, they dont want to be accused of “victim blaming” no matter how improbable and unlikely victim claims are. The “totally not pedo, I just have pedo urges and fantisies because-uhhh-trauma!” go into great detail about their fantasies for minors and their desire for an adult-minor relationship, but whenever anyone calls them out of for being suspiciously mappy they just blame it on their “trauma”. And as we all know, the term “csa” is extremely broad, so “csa” could describe anything from being locked in a sex dungeon in a basement for a decade from the age of 3 by a kidnapper, to willingly touching a 20 year olds boobs at the age of 17. Its gotten to the point that even anime girls and ai renderings are a form of csa. All three of those expiernces are equally “traumatic” and “abusive” to the average anti. So we get ridicolous situations such as a very obviously pedo “csa survivor” going into explicit detail all their secret pedo fantasies, then denying their blatant pedophillia and blaming it on their “trauma”. And the trauma in question is accidently stumbling on their dads adult porno stash once when they were 14. Then they go on an equally long rant in explicit detail describing how much they hate pedos and want them to die for giving them these “evil“ thoughts, despite the science, the same science that they hold so dearly when it gives them an excuse to uncritically bash pedos and intergen sex, also proving that an attraction to minors is innate and not environmental, that childhood expiernces have very little, if anything, to do with adult attractions, except for possibly “awakening” already existing but dormant feelings. That if you have pedophilic fantasies, its not “trauma”, its pedophillia. But of course that would cause far too much cognitive dissonance and create too many questions and challenge the validity of the csa hysteria, so these claims go unquestioned.

I'd say it's like confessions obtained during the Stalinist show trials: because it's out of the question that the CSA industry is wrong, it leads to false confessions of being abused.

These reasons are why anytime I see a bullshit claim of “I hate those filthy pedos and im totally not a pedo even though I have a primary or exclusive attraction to prepubsecent children its all those nasty evil pedos for giving me these thoughts” or “Those sick disgusting pedos are only pedos because sick disgusting pedos made them pedos, which is why we need to genocide-I mean eradicate all pedos so that they dont convert new pedos” I always call them out on it.

A decade or two ago, when extremism was still ostracized I think you could discredit people by pointing out the only solution possible, if you went down that route, would be genocide. However, I think people today are perfectly comfortable killing large groups of people. What's been normalized isn't pedophilia, it's genocide.