DESECRATION OF THE SHRINE OF HOLLY OF THE HOLIEST

[Valerian]

I sent my following comment to the following YouTube < https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGwEq7DMl_E >

Of course, they committed sacrilege by desecrating the shrine of holly of the holiest which has no parallel any where in the human history. You idiots go back to history to learn some lessons from it.
Pedophilia as you criminalize it today, was never been a crime unlike adultery, rape, prostitution and most importantly homosexuality. However, throughout history, your own ancestors forefathers and foremothers, almost all societies normalized prepubescent or adolescent sexual relations in the form of marriages which is around the age of puberty, often between 10 to 13 for girls. In ancient Rome and Greece, girls married shortly after puberty, with examples like Julia the Elder in Rome and Spartan practices. Medieval Europe saw child marriages among nobility, such as Margaret Beaufort in England (1455) married at 12 and gave birth at the age of 13 to King Henry VII , while the Church set marriage ages at 12 for girls and 14 for boys. In Islamic societies, early marriages were common, exemplified by Aisha’s marriage to Muhammad, and the Ottoman Empire used child marriages for political alliances. Hindu and South Asian traditions promoted child marriage to ensure purity and familial ties, while imperial China and feudal Japan married girls in their early teens for familial and social stability. Native American tribes and African societies also practiced early marriage as part of cultural rites. In Renaissance Europe and colonial America, girls often married in their mid-teens, reflecting societal norms. These practices, rooted in cultural, economic, and social contexts, contrast sharply with modern understanding built on pseudoscience of child rights to universally condemn it. Want to know more, further down?

[FairBlueLove]

Without knowing the real circumstances, and especially considering one cannot get any unbiased report from the media, I have no opinion on the case reported in the video.

Anyways, I could not find your comment: Did they already removed it?

I only see racist and hateful comments. Surprise, surprise: They didn't get removed.

However there are other videos on Youtube - like the one I linked here - where you could hope to be read by reasonable people.

[PorcelainLark]

Pedophilia as you criminalize it today, was never been a crime unlike adultery, rape, prostitution and most importantly homosexuality. However, throughout history, your own ancestors forefathers and foremothers, almost all societies normalized prepubescent or adolescent sexual relations in the form of marriages which is around the age of puberty, often between 10 to 13 for girls.

Is there much evidence for acceptance of sexual relations with prepubescents? I thought it was more to do with puberty and differing views of education, i.e. if education doesn't matter a youth becomes a parent as soon as is practically convenient.

I only see racist and hateful comments. Surprise, surprise: They didn't get removed.

I think maybe it would be a good idea to try to disentangle the hatred of MAPs from the racial aspect. I've said before I don't think MAPs can co-opt populism, however I'm not sure directly confronting the issue of race is the best approach either. It's impossible to refute the view that white people are sometimes racially targeted, so even if it was the case it's not the right battle to choose, in my opinion.

The key point is whether rape/CSA actually occurs. Obviously MAPs are going to be more conservative about how often they think it happens. However, if it does occur, what are you supposed to do about it? Another thing I think, is that dismissing claims of CSA, whether they involve grooming gangs or the Catholic church isn't always the best idea. I think in the long run we would benefit from building connections with CSA survivors.

[Valerian]

Anyways, I could not find your comment: Did they already removed it?

Yes, I just checked you are right, they removed it.

Without knowing the real circumstances, and especially considering one cannot get any unbiased report from the media, I have no opinion on the case reported in the video.

Yes I agree, however, we need to relay on our past experience of knowing that most part of the story probably false and exaggerated that is what I am aiming at. The most important thing for me is the historical record evidences available to us. The MAP need to fight back with these evidences some of which I provide, which those bigoted idiots can not deny, so they removed it, it shows they affraid to face it and don't want others to know it. Therefore, we should not stop but continue in the direction publicizing the real facts wherever possible.