Interview with a darknet child porn site admin

[BLueRibbon]

A few weeks ago, a person contacted an activist organization with the message that someone had encouraged him to speak with a man named Brian. He stated he was the operator of various darknet sites that allow sharing of criminalized images, but with strong ethical guidelines. My interest very much piqued, I first clarified a few safety guidelines before sending a list of questions.

The interview was conducted fully anonymously, and at no point did I need to access any illicit services. That does of course mean I was not able to verify the person's statements. Nonetheless, this must be the first time such an interview has been attempted. Let's see what the man has to say.

https://www.brianribbon.com/home/interv ... site-admin

[Learning to undeny]

Quite an interesting read, and an unkown but important piece of the puzzle. Goes to show that both faces exist on the darknet: people gaining money from abuse and administrators who want to innovate and offer something more ethical, even though there are still a lot of shades of gray (such as consent for distribution, which can be problematic even for adults).

Of course, I don't have information to judge whether the standards of the interviewee are high enough, but it seems reasonable that something like this could exist. I found it interesting that they were collaborating with researchers to help users who need it.

[ReArm!]

Hats off to you for this article, I really enjoyed it and I think it's a great job you did there!

I would like to ask two questions, tho:

1. In the interview you talk a lot ab how there are sites out there that post violent content where the victim is being raped. I would honestly like to know exactly what do you think about it? Do you think even in a world where pedophilia and it's content is allowed it should be penalized? And I don't mean it's production, of course (We can all agree that raping someone and making a video about it should merit the ful extent of the criminal law), but it's possession and distribution.

Let me make my case clear, in the US (and many other countries), gore and violent imagery are fully legal and under the protection of freedom of speech laws. I have never seen such content, but for what I've heard I think most comes from warzones and/or accidents, and usually serve the purpose of having an account of what's happening there. Even if some edgy teens use it to have fun. It's only when it becomes sexual that it becomes ilegal. I don't fully understand why is that, tbh. I feel like freedom of speech should protect any media, be it violent or not, just because of the fact that it is information.

(Hopefully I won't get banned for having this thought lol, I mean would it be "expressions of support for violent sexual behavior"? To be clear, ofc I'm not advocating for raping someone, same as I'm not advocating for shooting people in the head, but I don't think neither of those contents, when already made, should be illegal. I know mods read messages before approving them, so I would ask that if it's not allowed just don't approve the post instead of banning me, it would be a great favour)

2. You talked briefly ab the Chat control proposal at the end, I know you're not european, but I think it wuld be a great topic to talk about. Do you think you may do it in the future?

[Not Forever]

For example, we received information that zoophilia is linked to a higher rate of sexual sadism. We evaluated the situation and decided that such content does pose a problem in our case, so we decided to ban such content.

I would have liked a bit more in-depth discussion of this issue. I mean, it’s not uncommon to hear about sadists who feel discriminated against even by MAPs, and to read something like that… I don’t know—when you play around with how things are linked, usually no one comes out of it looking good.

Even if some edgy teens use it to have fun.

One could also add to the discussion the true sadists, in the sense of those who feel sexual attraction toward videos or images of this kind.

[ReArm!]

One could also add to the discussion the true sadists, in the sense of those who feel sexual attraction toward videos or images of this kind.

Sure, tho I'd think exactly the same ab it. They have the right to goon to something like that, I think. It should not be criminalized just to have those images

[RocketRack]

This was an interesting read! I dont agree with MAPs like him who 'consume' child porn though... I think thats gross personally

[BLueRibbon]

In the interview you talk a lot ab how there are sites out there that post violent content where the victim is being raped. I would honestly like to know exactly what do you think about it? Do you think even in a world where pedophilia and it's content is allowed it should be penalized? And I don't mean it's production, of course (We can all agree that raping someone and making a video about it should merit the ful extent of the criminal law), but it's possession and distribution.

Distribution of genuinely abusive content is depressing and problematic. I don't agree with it, morally. How to deal with it is a complicated matter, however, because what feels 'right' and what is effective are not always the same thing.

Possession without paying the producer? Try to persuade me that such is actually harmful to children.

You talked briefly ab the Chat control proposal at the end, I know you're not european, but I think it wuld be a great topic to talk about. Do you think you may do it in the future?

https://www.brianribbon.com/home/chat-c ... -for-power

[ReArm!]

Distribution of genuinely abusive content is depressing and problematic. I don't agree with it, morally. How to deal with it is a complicated matter, however, because what feels 'right' and what is effective are not always the same thing.

I mean, we're here precisely because what feels right and what is "depressing" is not a moral standard, aren't we?
However, I think you're completely right. If someone is contributing monetarily to the producer, it should be a crime, but I was talking ab distributing it without monetary exchange, which same as you do I don't think it should be punished.

You talked briefly ab the Chat control proposal at the end, I know you're not european, but I think it wuld be a great topic to talk about. Do you think you may do it in the future?

https://www.brianribbon.com/home/chat-c ... -for-power

And thanks! Didn't see that you had the index with the previous articles below, I'm sorry!