Essay: A Call for the Abolition of Apathy

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Essay: A Call for the Abolition of Apathy

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Author Foreword: This essay is posted in response to community apathy toward activism. It is written as an urgent call to action rather than an attempt at academia. It builds on my work with Mu, which has highlighted key trends in MAP oppression.

Intended to encourage non-violent aggression and self-defense only, no part of my essay should be interpreted as condoning the instigation of violence. In light of the tragic Nicholas Prosper murders, I especially discourage any kind of violence against family members, random strangers, and children.

Please spread this article far and wide. While I do not encourage readers to visit sites containing illicit material, I am very happy for this article to be shared anywhere, including on such sites.

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Those people who view PIM on Darknet are afraid of losing the only thing they have, so they will be able to join only when the community significantly expands. But anyway It's necessary to periodically conduct "recruiting" in different networks and little by little people will flow into activist communities.
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Harlan wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 8:15 am Those people who view PIM on Darknet are afraid of losing the only thing they have, so they will be able to join only when the community significantly expands. But anyway It's necessary to periodically conduct "recruiting" in different networks and little by little people will flow into activist communities.
I agree that this is an issue. However, as I explained in my essay, those people are no longer safe. A multinational team of law enforcement agencies already found a way to identify people visiting darknet PIM sites, and have actively exploited the attack to arrest users. The attack requires mathematical luck, but connect enough times and your chance of being identified increases significantly. The Tor developers came out with imperfect fixes that rely on correct implementation by the site operator. The end user remains vulnerable unless he can trust the site operator 100%, which is impossible.

The darknet bros might as well get involved in activism at this point. The authorities are already hunting them.

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I know I am not very eloquent.
I just wonder if there are enough of us though.
I have always been a lurker in our communities. Occationally engaging but not too deep. I want to do more , but tge fear is high. I do not want to be a coward and I think our cause is right, but I have things to lose.
I am here to answer the call, I hope we are many.
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BLueRibbon wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 9:54 am However, as I explained in my essay, those people are no longer safe. A multinational team of law enforcement agencies already found a way to identify people visiting darknet PIM sites, and have actively exploited the attack to arrest users.
Consider updating the guide to online safety?
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It disappoints me to see so many MAPs shrug off activism as a solution. I think the perceived safety of their situation, whatever it is that they do legal or otherwise, is what drives most MAPs to dismiss it. They believe they'll grow old and die in relative happiness and safety because what they are doing and how they're doing it is uniquely safe, from their point of view.

For example, someone that accesses illegal image boards might believe that their methods of online privacy are particularly secure. They have no need to get involved in activism because the only people getting caught are the people being "stupid" about it; ignoring the countless examples of where law enforcement simply find a new way to de-anonymize users.

People who commit no crimes at all believe they're safe because as long as they just hide their attraction, no one will know nor care; ignoring the countless times that someone is assaulted or worse simply because a person in the community believes they are a MAP, with even non-MAPS being victimized. You might not do anything illegal, but if a particularly attractive minor walks passed and you stare for "too long" and someone notices, it's up to fate on what happens to you after that. People have been killed for less.

MAPs are constantly being hunted and whether you break the law or not is irrelevant, you're still on the chopping block. No matter what you use to keep yourself out of trouble, law enforcement are constantly trying to find new ways to criminalize you (Eg, making images of fake children illegal) and de-anonymize you online. No matter how normal you try to behave, all it takes is some random psychopath to think you looked at a kid the wrong way for him to gather his friends and visit your house later that night.

Activism is a necessity if we are to survive.
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Bookshelf wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 3:35 am It disappoints me to see so many MAPs shrug off activism as a solution. I think the perceived safety of their situation, whatever it is that they do legal or otherwise, is what drives most MAPs to dismiss it. They believe they'll grow old and die in relative happiness and safety because what they are doing and how they're doing it is uniquely safe, from their point of view.

For example, someone that accesses illegal image boards might believe that their methods of online privacy are particularly secure. They have no need to get involved in activism because the only people getting caught are the people being "stupid" about it; ignoring the countless examples of where law enforcement simply find a new way to de-anonymize users.

People who commit no crimes at all believe they're safe because as long as they just hide their attraction, no one will know nor care; ignoring the countless times that someone is assaulted or worse simply because a person in the community believes they are a MAP, with even non-MAPS being victimized. You might not do anything illegal, but if a particularly attractive minor walks passed and you stare for "too long" and someone notices, it's up to fate on what happens to you after that. People have been killed for less.

MAPs are constantly being hunted and whether you break the law or not is irrelevant, you're still on the chopping block. No matter what you use to keep yourself out of trouble, law enforcement are constantly trying to find new ways to criminalize you (Eg, making images of fake children illegal) and de-anonymize you online. No matter how normal you try to behave, all it takes is some random psychopath to think you looked at a kid the wrong way for him to gather his friends and visit your house later that night.

Activism is a necessity if we are to survive.
Perfectly summarized!
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I don't know, I feel pretty blackpilled, and I expect a lot of MAPs feel the same way. Hopelessness about change happening underlies the apathy. Kind of like, if we're doomed anyway, why not live it up?
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PorcelainLark wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2024 1:53 am I don't know, I feel pretty blackpilled, and I expect a lot of MAPs feel the same way. Hopelessness about change happening underlies the apathy. Kind of like, if we're doomed anyway, why not live it up?
Hopelessness and despair were very widespread during the early days of gay activism. Activism was tough. It felt like they were getting nowhere. People came and went. A lot of people had to take breaks or even quit due to the horrible toll activism was taking on their mental health.
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