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Butterfly Kisses: Researching Female Pedophilia

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I happen to have a copy of the Butterfly Kisses website, and I'm willing to post some of their research articles here if mods are ok with it. Actually, someone posted an all these articles on a different forum, but I feel they should also be preserved here, in case that forum ever goes down. And so I'm mostly copying that post.

Butterfly Kisses was a website about and for women who are attracted to little girls. It was online between 2001 and 2007. Here is their intro:
Butterfly Kisses wrote: Hello and welcome to "Butterfly Kisses". This web site is about and for women who are attracted to pre-teen and adolescent girls. Our primary goal is to give women and girls a tool for expressing their feelings and their love about this controversial topic, and to get people to open their minds to ideas about romantic and erotic attraction between women and girls that our society in the past has not been able to discuss openly and rationally. We also want to provide a place where women and girls can express themselves and can learn about their love in an atmosphere where they are encouraged to feel good about themselves and their sexuality.

Obviously, the information presented here is of an open and frank sexual nature and there is no "tap dancing" around sensitive topics. Hopefully, this will actually be a comfort to everyone because it will present "touchy" subject of female childlove to people to think about, without having to be influenced by sex-oppressed media, religion and governments. The topics discussed, articles/essays posted and the stories/poetry written on this site are different from what society's expectations of women and girls are, and as such this site strives to liberate women and girls from the oppression imposed on their sexuality.

Within the pages of Butterfly Kisses you will find sexual issues and topics of female, and particularly lesbian pedophilia, and some of them will probably make some people uncomfortable. Some people will be pleased and some will be angry. But ALL should make you THINK. Our society needs to learn how to discuss highly controversial subjects without the "knee-jerk" reaction so prevalent today. Many of these topics, if we will just stop over-reacting to them and calmly, rationally think about them, may turn out to be less controversial than we thought. We might even see a side to the issue that we had never considered before, which helps us to better understand the controversy. It is only when we understand the various sides to an issue and are ready to discuss it calmly and rationally, that we can begin to effectively deal with it.

This web site is divided in several different sections to make it easier for everyone to navigate through its pages. In "Speaking Out" you can read about real life stories and about female desires and love for little girls. You can also do your own research into woman/girl love by exploring our "Media Guide" archives or "Library" where you can find many examples of women's attraction to little girls, either written in books, painted on canvas or acted out in the movies.

I hope you will enjoy this web site!

Love,
Supergirl


>IFgLC Objective
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The International Female Girllovers Collective (IFgLC) was formed in 2001. It was inspired by the struggle of many women and girls through the years to have their love recognized and accepted by society, governments, religions and the law.

IFgLC's goal is to end the extreme oppression of women and girls in mutually consensual relationships by:

building understanding and support for such relationships
educating the general public on the benevolent nature of woman/girl love
cooperating with lesbian, gay, feminist, and other liberation movements
supporting the liberation of persons of all ages from sexual prejudice and oppression
Our membership is open to everyone sympathetic to woman/girl love and personal freedom.

IFgLC calls for the empowerment of youth in all areas, not just the sexual. We support greater economic, political and social opportunities for young people and denounce the rampant ageism that segregates and isolates them in fear and mistrust. We believe sexual feelings are a positive life force. We support the rights of youth as well as adults to choose the partners with whom they wish to share and enjoy their bodies.

We condemn sexual abuse and all forms of coercion. Freely-chosen relationships differ from unwanted sex. Present laws, which focus only on the age of the participants, ignore the quality of their relationships. We know that differences in age do not preclude mutual, loving interaction between persons. IFgLC is strongly opposed to age-of-consent laws and all other restrictions which deny women and girls the full enjoyment of their bodies and control over their own lives.

IFgLC does not provide encouragement, referrals or assistance for people seeking sexual contacts. IFgLC does not engage in any activities that violate the law, nor do we advocate that anyone else should do so.

We call for fundamental reform of the laws regarding relations between youths and adults. Today, many thousands of women and girls are unjustly ground into the disfunctional criminal justice system. Blindly, this system condemns consensual, loving relationships between younger and older people.

IFgLC is a political, civil rights, and educational organization. We provide factual information and help educate society about the positive and beneficial nature of woman/girl love.
There is nothing illegal on the website. Most interesting of all, at least to me, is their research section, which mostly consist of academic articles. There are other sections like movies, books and many personal stories.

Index

Articles
When You Change the Gender, Reality Changes Too
Meet 'Women's Auxiliary' of NAMBLA
Male Only Myth
Sexual Contacts Between Women and Children
There Can be no Emancipation of Women Without the Emancipation of Children
The Domain of the Wandervogel Girls: Pedagogical Eros and the Utopia of a Holy Island
Children's Sexual Customs, Marquesas Islands, 1940's
Mindless Sexual Taboos
Teaching Sexualities
"Girl, It's Boobies You're Getting, No?"
Bringing up Children Sexually
The Pedophile Panic
Lesbian Lolitas: High-School Girls Want to Be Gay-ish
“The World is Bursting With Adults, so I'm Always Glad to See a Little Girl”: A Young Woman's Account of her Paedo-Erotic Interests
Lesbians are to Scouting as Sunshine is to Summer...
Feminism, Pedophilia, and Children's Rights
The World of Girls' Schools: The History of Girls' School Stories
A Case for Intergenerational Relationships Between Women
Support for Underage Lesbians
The Paedophile Impulse: Toward the Development of an Etiology of Child-Adult Sexual Contacts from an Ethological and Ethnological Viewpoint
The Intimacy of Children
They're 'Out' at School, and Tension Is In
Teaching Sexuality
Constructive Questions Regarding Paedophilia
Sexual Outlaws v. The Sex Police
The Age of Consent: The Great Kiddy-Porn Panic of '77
The Aftermath of the Great Kiddy-Porn Panic of '77
Incest and the Sexual Abuse of Children in New Guinea
Maternal Incest: The Child as Breast
Sappho: The Tenth Muse
There's Feminism and Then There's Feminism: Will the Real Feminism Please Stand Up?
Mother and Child: The Erotic Bond

Personal Stories
A Crush on My Girl-Scout Leader
Daar sta je dan... alleen!
Age Is Just A Number... But for Some, It is a Crime
Amy, 16, Texas
Sister Flo
First Love
To Miss With Love — Four Lesbians Recall Their Own Schoolgirl Loves
Bathing Beauties
Chantelle's Story
Does She Have Children, Other Than You?
Case History: A 21 Year Old Woman Reveals Her Long History of Abnormal Experiences With Adults of Both Sexes From Age 5
Isabel's Story

Interviews
Interview: Martha Vicinus
Interview: Monica Pieterse
Interview: Heidi
Sexual Revolution and the Liberation of Children: An Interview With Kate Millett By Mark Blasius
Interview: Inge
Interview: Gisela Bleibtreu-Ehrenberg
Interview: Irina Ionesco
Interview: Judith
Interview: Mimi

Articles from other sites
What do women with sexual interest in children (SIC) tell us about the assumed cause of their SIC, (non-)disclosure, and professional help?
The Romance of Henry James’s Female Pedophile
Evaluating Female Sex Offenders Without Prejudice
From: Queer Girls and Intergenerational Lesbian Sexuality in the 1970s, in Historical Reflections
Child sex: why are we so fucked up about it?
Out of the Mouth of Babes: Youth Speak Out on Youthlove
On woman/girl love, or lesbians do "do it"
“We Do Exist”: The Experiences of Women Living with a Sexual Interest in Minors
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Before you start reading, I just want to make a note that many articles posted here were written between 1970 and 2000, and are somewhat outdated. The opinions expressed, as well as laws and societal norms, have evolved since then and may not fully reflect current perspectives or realities. However, the overarching themes and concerns discussed in these articles may still hold relevance, as many of the issues addressed are still present and applicable to our community today.






When You Change the Gender, Reality Changes Too
From Paidika, The Journal of Paedophilia,
Issue 8, Special Women's Issue

By Marjan Sax and Sjuul Deckwitz
Some feminists may still feel that it would be easier to attain their goals without the liability of perceived “sexual deviance” of any sort. In the current sex debates, some fear that the women's movement will come to be identified with issues even more stigmatized and threatening than female homosexuality. Thus, feminists' fear of sexual difference manifests itself as a concern with public relations, an attempt to keep the women's movement respectable and free of pollution. 1
Sex and the erotic between women and boys and women and girls is virgin territory for scientific research. When Paidika Editor Joseph Geraci asked us to edit a special issue on women and paedophilia we were rather surprised. Women and paedophilia? Never heard of it. None of the discussions we had participated in had touched upon the adult woman as the partner of a child. The contribution of women to the dialogue on paedophilia has been to argue that it is harmful for the child, 2 or guardedly to describe childhood sexuality. 3 Female “paedophiles” have been conspicuous by their absence. Alice Schwarzer questioned whether there could even be such a thing as a female paedophile. Her theory was that a woman was incapable of expressing power through her sexuality. 4 The reason most often cited for the supposed nonexistence of female paedophiles is that women in their social roles of mother and guardian have developed a special bond with children which is non-sexually caring, loving, and protecting. It is argued that these qualities simply do not mix with the erotic.

It is surprising that contacts between women and boys and women and girls are certainly dealt with in novels and films. Helene Pemn described in De nauwe weg (The Narrow Path) the increasingly erotic attraction a women in her twenties felt for a boy of ten in her care. 5 Twee vorsttnnen en een vorst (Two Countesses and a Count) by Peskens is about the erotic feelings of a 15-year-old boy for his aunt. 6 This theme recurs in the same author's Man tante Coleta. 7 Olivia, written by “Olivia” (the pseudonym of Dorothy Strachey Bussy), deals with the love of a 16-year-old girl for the female director of a French boarding school. 8 The films Mourir d'aimer by André Cayette 9 and Kung En Master by Agnes Varda 10 show the love of adult women for respectively 17-year-old and 15-year-old boys. The well-known movie Madchen in Uniform (1931) by Leontine Sagans tells of a mutual, intense love between a boarding school girl and one of her female teachers. 11

In spite of its occurrence as a literary theme, women and paedophilia as a phenomenon is hardly ever noted, and even when it is, it is seldom considered “paedophilia.”

Several questions presented themselves when we began to examine the subject. Are such contacts and relationships limited to films and novels? Do they exist in real life? If they do, why are they not labeled paedophile? Are the sexual contacts between the (usually) male young person and women regarded as healthy and thus outside most people's understanding of paedophilia? Is the sexual behavior of women in these situations so motherly and non-threatening that it attracts no attention?

As we dug more deeply into our subject we discovered that erotic and sexual contacts between women and children under the age of consent do indeed occur. In speaking with female friends, once the shock of embarking on a discussion of the concept of paedophilia wore off, countless stories came out: love for male and female teachers, early lesbian experiences with older women, adult women's fantasies about having sexual escapades with innocent boys. The mutual attraction between women and minors was certainly not only an academic matter; but neither was it a subject much discussed.

Sex is a difficult issue and female sexuality only became a topic of general discussion among women after the second “feminist wave” in the '70s. Child sexuality is a taboo subject for many, and paedophilia is a forbidden subject in some circles. Perhaps these combined factors help to explain the general lack of attention paid to the phenomenon we are discussing in this volume. A search of the scientific literature yielded very little. With the exception of studies of sexual abuse where female perpetrators were cited (e.g., Finkelhor, Wakefield et al), 12 it seems that not much exists about women's sexual relationships with minors.


The Concept of Paedophilia

One thing quickly became clear to us — paedophilia was not generally associated with women. Most people who identify themselves as paedophiles are men. Nearly all research into paedophile experience is about males; the eroticism and sexuality described is male. Perhaps more importantly, although in the '70s in the Netherlands, and among certain experts today, the term has simply meant sexual relations between an adult and someone under the age of consent, paedophilia has everywhere gradually taken on more negative connotations. 13 For many people, and the media too, it has also become synonymous with incest and/or the sexual abuse of small children.

As we have come to understand the subject from a female perspective, we have found it irrelevant, even counter-productive, to label the similar eroto-sexual experiences of women “female paedophilia.” This would only place it in that frame of reference defined and described by the male perspective. The fact that we were unable to find many traces of so-called “female paedophilia” strengthened our feeling that we should reject the use of the term. Women make up virtually no percentage of the membership of existing paedophile groups, possibly because there are indeed very few women who call themselves paedophiles, or, more probably, because women who engage in adult/minor sexual relations seldom see their experiences reflected in the way that men with comparable experiences describe them. In addition, most paedophile groups consist largely of homosexual men, and it may be that women having heterosexual adult-minor relations do not feel comfortable in such groups.

In the course of our interviews, speaking with many women, it became evident that, as a concept, paedophilia was alienating, and prevented women from recognizing their own experiences. Another drawback we felt was that the term favors the position of the older person who feels attracted to the younger. The perspective of the minor is not implied by the term and sometimes in the discussion seems irrelevant. The study of the paedophile phenomenon is almost always centered on the adult.

The negative connotations of the term, the fact that it is largely associated with men, the fact that it usually connotes only the adult, have convinced us to avoid its use. We especially do not want to place the experiences of women in a frame of reference almost universally described in terms of male sexuality. We will thus speak about “erotic and sexual experiences between women and boys or girls, and vice versa.” That is hardly a pithy phrase, but we would rather use it than a word that would automatically create misunderstandings.


Definitions

What experiences are described in this book? As we sat down to define them we found ourselves in a mine field. There were the different definitions of paedophilia: the majority involved sexual attraction which the older person feels for children. Brongersma describes someone with paedophile feelings as “an adult with a clear, conscious sexual preference for boys and/or girls.” 14 As a simple rendering of the law, there is also the more formal definition of “sexual contact with a young person under the age of consent.” Bleibtreu-Ehrenberg defines paedophilia as “sexual contact with preadolescent children who have not yet reached biological sexual maturity.” 15 The trouble for us with these definitions is that they are all explicitly sexual.

Without wanting to over-simplify male sexuality, even male researchers propose that mature male sexual experience is chiefly directed towards orgasm through either masturbation or penetration. 16 When we consider the contacts women have with minors, and vice-versa, some of which are described in the following interviews and articles, we see immediately that this genital description is inadequate. For many women, sexuality does not imply orgasm per se; sexuality for women and girls is a much less clear — cut thing; it is open to question. Are caressing or affection “sexual”?

We suspect that many contacts women have with boys and girls, and vice versa, are erotic; that is, although there might be an obvious attraction, it might not result in sexual acts. Perhaps nothing actually “happens”; perhaps those involved put their arms around and hug one another. We wanted, nonetheless, to include this kind of behavior in our study, and we did not wish to set limits as to what counted as a sexual or erotic act and what did not. We have therefore kept our concept as broad as possible: erotic and sexual relations of women with girls or boys and vice versa.


Age

Age limits are a recurrent issue in discussions about paedophilia. At what age do adult Dutch people find it acceptable for a young person to have sexual relations with someone older? The lower the age of the youth the greater the objection to a sexual relation. Sexual maturity and age of consent are the most frequently cited criteria for judging the acceptability of a sexual relationship. There is a considerable difference between the two, although they are sometimes confused with the discussion of the child's ability to consent. One objection to using age of consent as a standard is that it varies so widely from country to country. It is further complicated by the fact that there are usually different consent ages for homosexual and heterosexual acts. In The Netherlands the legal age of consent for both is 16; in the United States it varies from state to state; in Japan it is 13; and in England it is 16 for heterosexual and 21 for homosexual acts.

In determining the contents of this Special Issue we decided not to use age of consent as a criterion for inclusion or exclusion. The whole discussion about the age at which the age of consent should be fixed did not strike us as a very useful discussion. The more relevant questions for women/minor relations is whether they were occurring at all, and, if so, what form they were taking. We set neither an upper nor a lower limit to the age of the younger partner. Most reports and interviews, however, concern adolescents older than 12. We also have more concerns about intergenerational relationships when the children involved are very young, but we have not, at this stage in our research, come across experiences between women and pre-pubescent children. Our sentiment, finally, was that if all experiences were to be examined, age boundaries seemed too limiting.


Concepts of Female Sexuality

Sex and eroticism, it is now generally accepted, are not the same for women as for men. Male needs and male experience of sexuality have commonly been used as the standard of sexuality. Dyer says, “Male sexuality is a bit like air: you are breathing it all the time but you are not conscious of it.” 17

In the last 20 years a new idea has gained ground: that the male norm for sexual behavior is inappropriate for women. Women may wish to deal with sex in a different way — not necessarily a better way — and want the latitude to experiment with their own wishes and ideas.

In sexual politics, female sexuality is less and less frequently depicted as the shadow side, mirror image, or extension of male sexuality. What the forms of female sexuality are is not so easily described. Certainly we can at least state that because of the different socialization processes and upbringing of women, they have learned to deal with sexuality in a different manner.

One aspect of sexuality which has received a great deal of attention in the last few years is sexual violence against women and girls. The women's movement has continuously complained about, and given examples of, incest and sexual abuse. It is one of the visible changes which feminism has brought about: thinking about sexuality is impossible without recognition of that violent side of (male) sexual behavior.

The campaign against pornography, which directly linked it to sexual violence against women, 18 was in the 1980s an important focus of feminism and received a lot of attention both inside and outside the women's movement. In the United States, attempts by MacKinnon and Dworkin to have pornography banned forged a monstrous bond between feminists and the New Right. Faithful to reactionary thought, MacKinnon and Dworkin targeted not just pornography but also all forms of sexual activity other than monogamous, loving sexual relations between lesbian women. Other forms of sexual behavior were condemned as phallocentric and demeaning. In most European countries the anti-porn campaign was milder, but the link between it and the struggle against sexual violence certainly existed.

Pornography and sexual violence have dominated much of the discussion about women and sexuality, to such a degree that for many people outside the women's movement this segment of the discussion appears to comprise the entire feminist view of sexuality.

There was, however, another current of thought which, influenced by ideas about women's right to sexual self-determination, placed more emphasis upon the positive aspects of sexuality. It included lesbian groups experimenting in sado-masochism, prostitutes who were advocating their own “workers' rights,” women from the butch-fern world, and feminists in the academic world. in the United States these groups coalesced into an effective lobby against the anti-pornography efforts of MacKinnon and Dworkin. 19 The starting point for these “pro-sex” groups was the insistence that the fight against sexual violence revealed only one side of the coin. They emphasized that women must also pay attention to what they did want; what experiences were they having with their own sexuality and eroticism; what longings did they cherish? 20

Unfortunately, these two approaches to female sexuality have in the last years become polarized. Feminists have been preoccupied either with sexual violence and their sexual repression by men, or with the fight for sexual freedom and sexual self-determination. In The Netherlands, certainly, many feminists feel that a more nuanced approach has been abandoned.

We do not intend here to support one side or the other in this disastrous division of opinion and effort. An analysis which leads to the exclusion of certain groups, because their viewpoints on the issue of sex differ radically from the mainstream, is one-sided and counter-productive. Patriarchal mechanisms, sexism, and abuse do exist, but so do desires and pleasure.


Positive Experiences

In assembling the articles for this Special Issue we wished to do justice to diversity. We were certainly aware that sexual violence and sexual abuse occurred in relationships between adults and young people, and such violence must never be denied nor covered up.

When we embarked on this study we were also surprised that so little consideration had been given to the positive, fruitful side of relationships between adult women and minors. In conversations with female friends, we heard so many happy stories, related with genuine pleasure, that our feeling was strengthened that presenting a positive view of relationships between women and young people was indeed justified. Some of these stories we have included here as personal interviews. They are good memories of a kind one seldom hears. That is not to say that we closed our eyes to the negative side which such relationships can have, but an even-handed discussion is only possible when both kinds of experience can be examined.

One of the objections made by opponents of adult child relations is that, because of the difference in ages, a relationship between a minor and an adult is necessarily characterized by too great a power imbalance. The basis of this objection is that young people cannot always foresee the consequences of their actions, and that creates an opportunity for adults to use, or abuse, them. The wishes of the child are subordinated to those of the adult. 21 A counter—argument is that there is a power differential in every relationship. With children, great power differences play a role in their relationships with their parents, teachers, and even sometimes with their peers. We are dissatisfied with condemnations based on power imbalances.

In our minds, to demand of a relationship an equality of needs and desires is chasing after an illusion. In the majority of relationships one person is usually more dependent upon the other. What is important is that the partners create a formula which they both find sufficiently satisfactory. Under what circumstances this happens, or does not happen, differs from case to case. There is no lack of information about the extent to which there are power differences in these relationships between women and minors. In our interviews we discovered differences in ages and life experience, differences in sums of money available to the women or child, differences in circles of friends, and differences in social position, as for example between teacher and student. Each relationship seemed to ascribe its own degree of importance to any one or all of these differences. In our view it is much more fruitful to examine a particular relationship as it really is rather than to make generalizations about power.

We have not examined the experiences of girls with adult men. We suspect that in many of these relationships male sexuality determines the character of the relationship. In traditional heterosexual relationships, the man's behavior usually determines what sexually takes place, unless the female partner consciously sets herself against it. We question whether young girls, with very little experience, are in any condition to oppose a man's wishes. There is little research on the subject, however, to confirm either a negative or a positive view. We fervently hope that further research will shed light on the nature of these relationships.

These are the parameters for the discussion in the articles that follow. Adult-minor relations do not play themselves out in a vacuum. In the following paragraphs we will sketch our understanding of the social setting in which such relationships must be placed. We are, for the most part, speaking from a Dutch perspective, but we maintain that this is a sound basis for an international, if Western, discussion.


Social Images

Sexual contacts between women and boys are generally less condemned than those between men and boys. “It's better to learn on an old bicycle” is a cheerful old Dutch saying often applied to contacts between an adult woman and a boy. It does not imply real approval, but neither is it malicious.

Indeed, the initiation of boys into sexual love by women is often seen as a loving, and certainly not aggressive, act. The cliché of the experienced older woman teaching a boy how to perform the love act is non—threatening because such an initiation serves the purposes of male sexuality: the sexual sculpting of a boy into a man. The attention here is primarily focussed on the boy. The loving behavior, inherent in the woman, is seen as a sufficient guarantee of a responsible initiation without damaging side effects.

There is less social approval of relations between a woman and a girl, mostly because of prejudices against lesbianism. Erotic contacts between women imply a sort of sexual autonomy and are still not well regarded. People fear that the sexual feelings of the girl will be so misdirected that she will become lesbian herself.

Despite grudging tolerance verging on mild disapproval, erotic and sexual feelings in women for minors are not much considered. The bonding that goes on between women and children (and even adolescents) is generally regarded as natural. The image of motherhood rubs off onto all women, even those who aren't mothers. Women have such constant contact with children that people seldom stop to consider that there might be a sexual element in it. Women and children are a normal combination. But normal here means non-erotic and non-sexual. The erotic side of motherhood may reveal itself to a certain limited extent, as can be seen in a mother's letter to the Dutch women's magazine Libelle in which she gives a lyrical description of how in love she is with her baby. 22 Women can express erotic feelings for children by hugging them. But there are limits on the discussion of this expression. For example, there is a taboo on the discussion of the eroticism of breast feeding. Is it because the physical sensations stimulate unmentionable sexual feelings?


“Female Perpetrators”

Recently, some attention has been directed to adult-minor relations involving women, but unfortunately it involves only abuse. Some articles have been published about the old mother son incest taboo. 23

It seems, from research on the sexual abuse of children, that female perpetrators do exist. In The Netherlands, until recently, that fact was not reflected in available statistics; thus it is remarkable that in these studies one does come across women perpetrators. A 1989 Dutch study found 12% of the perpetrators were women. 24 A number of explanations have been offered for the appearance of women in recent sexual violence studies. One is that sexual abuse reveals itself in stages: first one sees abuse carried out by men; later, once people's eyes have been opened to the fact that sexual abuse is more common than is realized, attention turns to women. In contrast, Gianotten attributes the increase in female perpetrators to the growing emancipation of women, through which they have gained more power and along with it the potential for abusing that power. 25

The purpose of this Special Issue is to bring to light positive experiences, and for that reason, no tales of sexual abuse are included, and no forms of parent-child incest are examined.


The Sexuality of Children

Ambivalence about sexuality can often be observed when the subject of the sexuality and sexual education of children comes up. It cannot be denied that children have sexual feelings, but this is such a delicate subject to most people that they would rather leave it alone. Certainly the Western world has a great deal of difficulty dealing with it. Plummer describes how the sexual experiences of children are molded by the adult's reactions to them. 26 Children have a fine appreciation of other people's feelings; they quickly pick up an adult's uneasiness about sex. They perceive that adults don't know how they should talk about it, don't even know the right words to use; they see how awkward adults become. They notice that many adults find sex unpleasant and dirty, are secretive about it, talk around it, or quickly change the subject. And so children learn, without adults being aware of it, that sex is not a “normal” thing. The child learns to avoid the subject, learns that talking about sex is something you just don't do. Sex becomes categorized as something “done on the sly.”

To some extent there is a general, ill-defined attitude — more a feeling than an idea — that the sexual feelings and longings of children may be allowed some expression with age-mates, but within what limits these acts may take place is not clear. Anxiety about abuse in recent years has sharply increased and sometimes reaches bizarre proportions. Instances of real or assumed sexual abuse have made it difficult to examine the sexual behavior of children in a positive manner.

A case recently came to light in which a 12-year-old Dutch boy was supposed to have “abused” more than 200 children over an 18 month period. 27 The extent to which the children were really victims remains unclear. Experts expressed doubts about the alarming tales which the police told; it was calculated that during those 18 months the boy must have approached three different children every week in order for the total to top 200, a statistic that seems quite impossible. Questions were raised about official examination methods which often give children ample opportunity, by means of suggestive questioning, to tell their examiners what they wish to hear. This was discussed in an article by Benjamin Rossen and Jan Schuijer in the Volkskrant. 28 The furious reaction against this article by one mother whose children were supposed to have been abused by the 12-year-old “perpetrator” shows how clouded discussions of children and sex can become. 29 That is highly unfortunate, for very often in these so-called juvenile sex cases something other than the sexual is going on, something that can better be handled in a way that does not criminalize the child. This boy seems to have been a bully who frightened and forced other children to do what he wanted. But in the media he was labeled a “mini-pervert,” and painted exclusively as a “sexually disturbed” individual.

In the United States there have been frequent panic reactions where children were thought to have sexually abused other children. In 1989 in Santa Cruz, California, a teenage boy was arrested because he was supposed to have had sex with playmates 4 to 10 years of age. 30 At Children's Institute International in Los Angeles, there is a special treatment program for children who have sexually abused other children. 31 It may be true that such children have acted violently but it is questionable whether arresting them, taking them out of their homes and branding them as criminals is an effective way to correc power games which are out of hand. Adult panic reactions give rise to irresponsible prosecutions of invented sexual abuse. The discussion about protecting children from abuse is not only about protecting children; it is also about adults' ignorance about their own sexuality and the sexuality of children. Adults can transmit their anxieties and projections about sex to children.

To the question of how the sexual behavior of children can develop most positively, there is no easy answer. Experiments in communes with free sexuality are isolated occurrences. Few in the feminist movement have given much thought to the position of children and only a handful of feminist visionaries have also pleaded strongly for the freedom of children. They link the repressed position of children in their homes, at school, and in society as a whole, to their lack of sexual freedom. In 1970 Shulamith Firestone called attention to the dependent position of children in modem Western society. 32 Kate Millet in an interview in 1980 (reprinted here) pleaded for children's rights. Her argument was that children, too, have a right to sexual freedom. Some argue that in fact children should have control, not just of their own sexuality, but of their lives.

A more recent complaint comes from the Kanalratten group, whose “manifesto” we include here. They see the authoritarian structure of the family as suppressing children. Despite its ideological rigidity and not very subtle formulation, we decided to include a part of their document. The Kanalratten, as well as Firestone and Millet, are among the few feminist women who have argued for the right of children to decide for themselves their own sexual lives and sexual behavior.


Childhood Innocence

In our society we view the years of childhood as a time of innocence. Innocence here has a double meaning: on the one hand it is taken to mean that children can not yet be held responsible for their (at times bad) behavior because they cannot foresee its consequences; on the other hand it implies a state of virginity, an absence of sexual impulses and desires, or at least, an absence of sexual knowledge or experience.

This view of innocence, we believe, can be interpreted as an attestation of sexual guilt. Sexuality and sexual behavior are perceived in Western societies as among the most symbolic of all human activities. In a not-so-innocent world we have a strong need for symbols of innocence. In former times we projected this onto women; today it is onto children. The notion of the “inborn” chastity of women in the 19th century is equivalent to the notion of the innocence of the child today. The symbolic, “unsullied by experience,” child figure is regularly used in campaigns for the New Right. As the American historian John D'Emilio said in an interview:
Anxiety about the sexuality of the young is the binding factor which unites the various right—wing morality campaigns. If you examine the rhetoric of the campaigns against abortion, pornography, gay rights, sex education and other such issues, you'll find fears about the autonomous expression of sexuality among the young as a motif that runs through all of them. Anita Bryant, for instance, called her anti-gay campaign “Save our children.” The right— wing, anti-pornography campaign in the 1970s began with the issue of kiddie porn. In the Nineteenth Century, conservative moralists focused on the purity of women as their key symbolic concern.. . . So now, the line that is being defended is the “innocence of youth". 33
We certainly do not disagree with the protection of children from sexual abuse or any other kind of abuse. But it is inexcusable that the innocence of youth is used as a means to achieve other ends, such as denying homosexuals or lesbians equal rights. The innocence of children appears to be the sacred symbol for a moral battle which is being fought not just over children but over the territory and social position of sexuality itself.


Moral Panic

We think it is important to examine the ideology and tactics of some of those who have fostered these moral panics, because the discussion of child sexuality does not take place in a vacuum. It s a loaded subject, dressed up in monster clothes, and subject to all kinds of insinuations.

Gayle Rubin stated that sexuality is more than a frivolous pastime when problems of poverty, hunger, racism, and war assail us:
Contemporary conflicts over sexual values and erotic conduct have much in common with the religious disputes of earlier centuries. They acquire immense symbolic weight. Disputes over sexual behaviour often become the vehicles for displacing social anxieties, and discharging their attendant emotional intensity. Consequently, sexuality should be treated with special respect in times of great social stress. 34
In times of social uncertainty, excitement about sex serves as a kind of lightning rod. We have known such “moral panics” here in The Netherlands. “Oude Pekela,” a Dutch town, has become symbolic as the Dutch example of child sexual abuse hysteria, in which not a single shred of evidence came to light. 35 It is not just children who are caught up in these panics; adults who are falsely accused of abuse, kidnapping, and abduction are stigmatized for the rest of their lives. It is remarkable that now women are starting to be accused of the most gruesome crimes against children. In the last years there have been numerous trials of female day—care center workers and kindergarten teachers in the United States accused of raping and torturing children and carrying out Satanic rituals. 36 The pogroms which are carried out in the name of child protection have still more in common with “moral panic” as defined by Jeffrey Weeks:
Moral panics are flurries of social anxiety, usually focusing on a condition or person, or group of persons, who become defined as a threat to accepted social values and assumptions. They arise generally in situations of confusion and ambiguity, in periods when the boundaries between legitimate and illegitimate behaviours seem to need redefining or classification. Classic moral panics in the past have often produced drastic results, in the form of moral witch—hunts, physical assault and legislative action.” 37

Sexuality as a Social Construction

Until the second half of the 19th Century, sexuality was the concern of the courts and the church. They determined the boundaries between permitted and forbidden conduct, and they carried out corrective actions. With the standardization and professionalization of medicine, operating from the assumption that prevention was always better than cure, sex came more and more into the domain of doctors. Doctors separated sexuality from other aspects of the person, set up categories of deviant or disparaged behavior, and provided explanations of them. Homosexuality was defined as moral madness caused by degeneration. According to such writers on sexuality as Jeffrey Weeks, Gayle Rubin, and the philosopher Michel Foucault, “created” sexuality and especially homosexuality. Medical science created sexual identities to conform to the sexualities they had created. The identity of individuals depended upon their sexual preference rather than on other things of importance, such as the work they did or the social classes to which they belonged.

Sexuality, supposedly a unity of conduct, bodily reactions, desires, and emotions, is, according to these writers, not inborn; it is a cultural, social construction. It is the result of political activity, different power positions, and the oppression of stigmatized groups and peoples excluded from conventional society, and their opposition to this oppression. No single bodily action, nor desire is in itself sexual, but becomes so in its historical and cultural context. Plummer said:
The central point really is that there is nothing intrinsically given in sexuality, or we now call them, sexualities. Or gender for that matter. And that children aren't fixed either, nor are men and women fixed. The whole thing is basically a flux which we encode, on which we put whole sets of categorizations in order to regulate lives and control them and our experiences. It allows society to function. 38
Women also are punished for stepping over the boundaries of permitted sexual behavior, but their deviant sexual activities are less well recorded and taken less seriously than is the case with men. Lesbian acts, for example, are not so frequently reported, and thus not so frequently punished, as male homosexual behavior. Because of its greater invisibility, part of the sexual behavior of women remains undescribed, and so it has, to a certain extent, escaped medicalization. The sexual activities of women with children have for this reason also remained hidden. We can argue that, at least in the popular mind, female paedophilia does not exist.

This is more of an advantage than a disadvantage. On the one hand little is known about sex and the erotic between women and boys or girls; on the other hand it may obviate the need to deconstruct a dangerous medical stereotype. We certainly do not wish in this Special Issue to create a new category for women who form sexual bonds with minors. We do want to investigate a forgotten aspect of female sexuality, so we decided simply to set down a description of experiences. We offer no presupposed descriptions or definitions.


Women and Sexuality

When examining erotic and sexual experiences between women and minors, the question arises as to the nature of women's sexual behavior and to what extent it differs from men's. There is no simple answer, but we can look at the findings of recent years. Because of the dominant position of male sexuality and associated research (which mostly utilizes male definitions of sexual activity), the experiences of women have been neglected. Women until recently have conformed to the male norm.

This is not surprising. A bit of the inheritance of the Victorian era falls upon female sexuality. Women are still somewhat burdened with the 19th Century image of the “pure” woman who has no sexual needs. Women were thought to be passive, patient; male lust, on the other hand, was insatiable, a natural force which man could not resist. On women fell the thankless task of taming the beast of male lust.

The reward for the “good” woman was male protection. If a woman did not conform to the norms of decency, she was thought dissolute, and if she made a misstep, she “got what she asked for.” The price of “indecency” for women was the risk of sexual violence and rape. 39

Although these 19th century concepts of “good” and “bad” women seem now rather old fashioned, they are still held, consciously or unconsciously, by many women. Fear of sexual violence is an effective means of denying women their right to sexual self-determination. But what sexual wishes women do have is still rather unclear. They have not yet learned to separate their own sexual needs from those of their (male) partners, let alone formulate them and make them known. If, during the course of making love, one asks one's female partner what she wishes to do, she will often say, “Do what you like — I'll like it too.” Many women are better at saying what they don't want than in revealing what they do want; expressing their own sexual wishes is thought of as shameless or embarrassing.

In the last decades, however, much has happened within the women's movement regarding female sexuality: publications about the clitoral orgasm, sexual experiences, investigations into sexual fantasies, critical evaluations of psychological and sexological research, studies about existing stereotypes, erotic literature and pornography produced by lesbians, female S&M clubs, etc. From both a theoretical and a practical perspective, the search for the grail of female sexuality is in full swing, but the search has not generally produced clear results. The sexuality does not exist for women; what has come to the fore is different preferences and sexual diversity. It can be seen that differences in class, ethnic background, and milieu act to influence the sexual opinions and lives of women, just as they do men.

An increasing amount of statistical research is being done. A fairly consistent picture of female sexuality emerges from such investigations. For most (heterosexual) women, sex and love belong together. According to Shere Hite, 83% of women want a kind of sex where they feel emotionally bonded to their partners. 40 This is not surprising in a society which teaches girls from their very early years that a woman who wants pure sex is a slut. The idea that coitus leads directly to orgasm in women has been relegated by modem research to the realm of myth. This means that women can and ought to be open to varied forms of sexual activity, such as masturbation, clitoral stimulation by a partner, and the use of vibrators. But “coming” is not the most important thing. The idea that you may have an orgasm and utilize these techniques to achieve it is in and of itself fine, but orgasm does not mean total satisfaction. According to de Bruijn, one out of five women say that orgasm is the finest thing that happens in love-making; the other four find such factors as intimacy and emotional closeness at least as important. 41 From an investigation by Scheurs of lesbians, it emerged that for them, too, the most important thing was physical and emotional closeness; sexual lust played a lesser role. 42

The image which emerges from these statistical studies confirms something everybody already knew: for many women, sexuality expresses an emotional bond and is not primarily directed towards coitus and orgasm. The sexual feelings of women are directed more towards intimacy and physicality than at orgasm per se.

This research reflects, not surprisingly, the social conditioning of women. Since women carry out many nurturing and caring activities, this colors their sexual feelings as well. We suspect that the steps which women take on the path towards sexual autonomy will have consequences for intimacy and nurturing. Although prediction is risky, the existence of lesbian S&M groups and experiments with female-oriented erotica and pornography point to a growing diversity in women s sexual behavior. We hope that this growth will bring with it the chance for women to expand their sexual feelings beyond the traditional role women have had to play. We might hope that achieving greater freedom for themselves will also lead to greater tolerance towards the sexual behavior of others.


Girls and Romance

Little investigation has been done on girls. Researchers have usually devoted their energy to the broader area of the problems of youth.
In practice, most research is done on boys, boys who are criminal and who behave badly, boys who make trouble for the world about them. For this kind of research there is usually more money made available than for studies of something so ordinary as the normal schoolgirl who, if she is unhappy, just goes and lies down in bed where she disturbs no one, or who refuses to eat as she normally does. Girls have to be heroin prostitutes at the very least, or victims of incest rape, in order to become “interesting.” 43
Romance fills a special place in the experiential world of girls. Between ten and fifteen years of age, girls create a culture of their own, full of crushes and fantasies, played out in their own bedrooms and those of their friends.

When women look back upon their teen years, they remember the hours and days in which they sat in their rooms dreaming; they don't think of that time of their lives as a period of sexual development. To them, their sexual history began when outright sexual contact entered their lives. The disregard of this romantic phase by themselves and by the world around them is related to the problem mentioned above: erotic and sexual experiences of women have always been viewed from the male perspective, from which the differences between men and women are neglected. The sexual development of boys is different from that of girls. The research suggests that, from puberty onwards, boys are usually more sexually oriented; they secretly buy porno magazines, talk about their sexual experiences, and masturbate, alone or with each other. Boys dream and fantasize, too, but the preponderance of their fantasies are unmistakably sexual. Plummen describes the difference in this way:
Girls are led to connect their sexual meanings much more readily to a complex set of relationships and emotions, whereas boys are led into a much more specific concern with the doing of limited acts often divorced from the complexities of emotional life. Boys seem more prone, for instance, to create their own exploratory masturbatory circles, and to develop an interest in pornography and specific fetishistic sex acts. 44
Anatomic differences are important. A boy's sexual arousal is a visible act; the urge is to do something about it. Girls on the other hand can much more easily hide their sexual feelings—and that is what they have been brought up to do. It is very difficult for girls to express their sexuality.

That girls transfer their erotic and sexual feelings to romance must be taken as an important phenomenon in the adolescent world. 45 They experiment with their own appearance and that of their friends, trying on clothes and make-up. They write letters to one another and swoon over teen idols. The dream-world of girls consists of romantic love for horses, boys, pop stars, teachers of both sexes.

Love of horses scores high, for that majestic animal radiates a powerful kind of sensuality. Horses smell nice and it is wonderful to be able to control them. Stables are primarily populated with teenage girls who hang around hour after hour doing odd jobs. It is not surprising that there are impressive numbers of girls' magazines exclusively devoted to horses and ponies, stables, exchanges of pony pins, and posters. There are horse comic books in which the poor but talented horse-loving girl wins over her snobbish contemporaries from a higher social class.

Pop and film stars cause an enormous romantic commotion; girls sit in giggling ecstasy at concerts by New Kids On The Block (NKOTB), George Michael, or Gloria Estefan. One girl wrote about a NKOTB concert, “Then a man from the band stepped up on the podium and I immediately started to cry. I cried for a total of 2 hours and 40 minutes!” 46

Women remember dreaming about or falling in love with their teachers. Tales of adoring one's female gym teacher are common in lesbian circles, but girls who later become heterosexual are likewise prone to fall in love with a woman teacher. In girls' boarding schools in England around the turn of the century it was thought normal for the students to adore their teachers; it was regarded as a kind of rehearsal for dealing with emotions and the erotic, a kind of preparation for the demands marriage would one day make upon them. Being in love with a teacher was openly discussed. The girls gave their beloved teachers little gifts, such as a flower, competed to show the adored one who loved her the most, and studied harder in order to impress her. In Germany, in the girls' movement, pedagogical Eros was used to lead the girls towards a “healthy” (hetero) sexuality.

Nowadays girlhood romance — love for a horse, weeping for hours while a pop idol sings — is not recognized as a way girls define their emotional and sexual feelings. It is a serious oversight to neglect this aspect of their lives and not consider it a subject worthy of sexological research.


Conclusion

We make no plea for erotic and sexual relations between women and minors. We do plead for a realistic appraisal of every form of sexual behavior. Sexual relationships between people are vulnerable; that is certainly true of adult/minor relations which all too often are met with a lack of understanding, even aggression. Every relationship is unique and deserves to be accorded respect.

This is a collection of personal stories and reflective articles. We have tried to investigate the subject from many different points of view. The emphasis is on Western women. The observations of Gloria Weldcer about Surinam Creole culture Is a ground-breaking attempt to describe adult/minor non-Western relationships from a Woman', perspective.

The women whom we have interviewed about their personal experiences came in part from our own circle of acquaintances and partly from those of friends and colleagues. It was not so difficult to find women who had something to say about such relationships; it certainly was difficult to persuade them to give us an interview. Without exception, they would not allow us to use their real names.

The interviews were very tense sessions: all of those being interviewed found it difficult to tell their tales. They were not accustomed to talking about such matters often the interview was the first opportunity they had had to analyze their experiences. By the second or third session they were remembering incidents which they had thought they had forgotten.

We would like to thank those interviewed for their trust in us. Our thanks also goes to the one male and many female writers of the various articles, and for the very fact that they were willing to participate in the creation of this Special Issue.

Without Joseph Geraci, whose idea it was to devote an issue of Paidika to the theme of women and their sexual and erotic relationships with minors, this would never have happened. His patience, tenacity, and constructive criticism were a great support. We would also like to thank the Editor of the Schorer Imprint, Robertine Romeny, for the work she has put into the creation of the Dutch book version. Pattie Slegers has our gratitude for her critical reading of this introduction. Theo van der Meer has stood beside us through thick and thin and deserves very special thanks for so generously making his special knowledge and insight available to us.

This volume does not pretend to be more than a reconnoitering of new terrain. We surely hope it will stimulate discussions about erotic and sexual relations between women and boys or girls. As such, it raises more questions than it provides answers. It is an invitation to further study.


Editors' Note: Marjan Sax, feminist sex activist, political scientist, and writer, is a co-founder of the Mama Cash Foundation and a member of the governing board of Rode Draad. She has edited with others thefollowing books: Voor zover plaats aan de perstafel, over vrouwen in de dagbladjoumalistiek, and Zand erover? Afscheid en uitvaart naar eigen inzicht.

Sjuul Deckwitz, author and journalist, writes regularly for the Dutch magazines Lust & Gratie and Opzij. Two anthologies of her own work have been published: Niet wachten op ontsparming and De zegenrijke staat van sherry.

Translated by Frank Torey.

Copyright © 1992 by Marjan Sax and Sjuul Deckwitz.

NOTES

1. Carol S. Vance, ed., Pleasure and Danger, Exploring Female Sexuality (Boston: Routledge and Kegan Paul, 1984).p. 19.
2. Emma (4:1980). 3. Ada Schillemans, “Vrowen tegen pedofihie,” in Jeugd en Samenies'ing, February 1983. See also the introduction: “K.inderen, volwassenen, seksualiteit, voor—zichtige verkenningen op gevaarlijk terrein.”
4. Emma, op cit.
5. Helene Perrin, Dc nauwe weg (Utrecht/Antwerpen: Bruna & Zoon, 1969) first published as La Route étroite (Editions Gallimard, 1967).
6. Peskens, Twee vorstinnen en een vorst (Amsterdam: van Oorschot, 1981).
7. Peskens, .VIUn tanre Coletta (Amsterdam: van Oor— schot, 1976).
8. Olivia, Olivia, (London: Hogarth Press, 1949).
9. Andrea Cayette, Mourir d'aimer (1971).
10. Agnes Varda, Kung Fu Master (1988).
11. Leontine Sagan.s, Mddchcn in Uniform (1931).
12. D. Finkelhor, Child Sexual Abuse: New Theory and Research (New York: Free Press, 1984). Also, Hollida Wakefield, Martha Rogers, Ralph Underwager, “Female Sexual Abusers: A Theory of Loss,” in: Issues in Child Abuse Accusations, 2:4 (1990).
13. We are using the term “age of consent” to mean the age, determined by law, below which sexual relationships between adults and minors are not permitted.
14. Edward Brongersma, 'Boy-Lovers and their Influence on Boys: Distorted Research and Anecdotal Observations,” in: Journal of Homosexuality (New York: Haworth Press), 20:1/2 (1990).
15. Gisela Bleibtreu-Ehrenberg, “The Paedophile Impulse: Toward the Development of an Etiology of Child-Adu1t Sexual Contacts from an Ethological and Ethnologizal Perspective,” in: Paidika, 1:3 (1988).
16. Theo Sandfort, Jongens over vriendschap en seks met Mannen (Amsterdam: SUA, 1986), p. 62 et seq.
17. Jeffiey Weeks, Sexuality (Chichester: Ellis Hor— wood Ltd., I986),p. 38.
18. Susan Griffin, Pornography and Silence (London: Women's Press, 1981).
19. Daphne Read, “(De)Constructing Pornography: Feminisms in Conflict,” in: Kathy Peiss and Chisstip;~' Simmons, ed., Passion and Power, Sexuality in History (Philadelphia: Temple University Press, 1989). Also, Carole S. Vance, “Misunderstanding Obscenity,” in: Art in America, May 1990.
20. Ann Snitow, et al, eds., Powers of Desire: The Politics of Sexuality (New York: Monthly Review Press, 1983). Also, Vance, 1984, op cit.
21. Sandfort, op cit., 1986.
22. Libclle, no. 32, 1990.
23. Spiegel, vol. 33 no. 9. Also, Express, 13 September 1991. Also, Opzj, April 1990.
24. National Society of Confidential Doctors Dealing with Child Abuse (LsnvK), Report for the years 1985 through 1988.
25.José Rijnaarts, “Een oud tahoe of een nieuw probleem? Vrouwen die incest plcgen,” in Opzj, April 1990.
26. Kenneth Plummet, interviewed in Paidika, 2:2 (1990).
27. NRC Harsdelsblad, 25 September 1991.
28. Volkskrant, 5 October 1991.
29. Karin Koopman, Volkskrant, 10 October1991.
30. El Paso Herald Post, 15 August 1989.
31. Toni Cavanagh Johnson, “Child Perpetrators— Children who Molest other Children: Preliminary Findings.”
32. Shulamith Firestone, The Dialectic of Sex: The Case for Feminist Revolution (New York: Bantam Books, 1970).
33. Lawrence D. Mass 1990, Homosexuality as Behavior and Identity, Vol. II (New York: Harrington Park Press, l99O),p. 174.
34. Gayle Rubin, “Thinking Sex: Notes for a Radical Theory of the Politics of Sexuality,” in” Carole Vance, ed., Pleasure and Danger: Exploring Female Sexuality (Boston: Routledge and Kegan Paul, 1984), p. 267.
35. Benjamin Rossen, Zedenangst; her verhaal van Oude Pekela (Amsterdam/Lisse: Swets & Zeitlinger, 1989).
36. Debbie Nathan, “The Ritual Sex Abuse Hoax,” in: The Village Voice, l2June 1990.
37. Weeks, 1986, op cit., p. 97. 38. Plummet, Paidika, 1990, op cit., p. 3.
39. Vance, 1984, op cit.
40. Shere Hite, The Hite Report: A Nationwide Study of Female Sexuality (New York: Dell Publishing Corp. 1989).
41. Gerda de Bruijn, Vnjen met een man, kan dat dan? J/rouwen over hun liefdesleven (Baam: Anthos, 1985).
42. Karlein Schreurs, Vrouwen in I..esbische Relaties, Interfacultaire Werkgroep Homostudies (Thesis, Rijksuniversiteit, Utrecht, 1990).
43. Ingrid Harms andJannetje Koelewijn, “De meisjes van Yes,” in: VrsjNederland, 7 September 1991.
44. Kenneth Plummet, “Understanding Childhood Sexualities,” in: Journal of Homosexuality (New York: Haworth Press, 1990) 20:1/2, p. 243.
45. Sharon Thompson, “Search for Tomonow: On Feminism and the Reconstruction of Teen Romance,” in: Vance, 1984, op cit.
46. Hitkrant No. 50,1991.
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Meet 'Women's Auxiliary' of NAMBLA
Website celebrates sex between adult women, young girls

by Art Moore
July 22, 2002


Celebrating erotic relationships between women and young girls is the theme of a website called "Butterfly Kisses," which indicates the relatively unknown fact that pedophilia exists in significant numbers among females.

While the site's creators do not identify themselves, posted articles show how some advocates are attempting to create an academic rationale for what is commonly and legally regarded as abuse and molestation.

"It's very dangerous when you begin to see women organize in the same way you have seen men organized to rape children," said noted researcher Judith Reisman, who referred to the people behind the website as the "Women's Auxiliary of NAMBLA," the North American Man-Boy Love Association.

While the site's opening page features an apparently wholesome photograph of a mother appreciating her child, "the primary goal" of presenting the subsequent material is clearly stated in the introduction as giving "women and girls a tool for expressing their feelings and their love about this controversial topic, and to get people to open their minds to ideas about romantic and erotic attraction between women and girls that our society in the past has not been able to discuss openly and rationally."

WorldNetDaily was alerted to the website by reader Sandra Hartle of Spanaway, Wash., a grandmother who is part of a group that has helped shut down about 1,000 pornographic sites on the Microsoft Network's website communities.

She has discovered private sites on MSN depicting elementary school-age boys with adult men, but found "Butterfly Kisses" a particular threat to families like her own.

"Some of the information on this site is so terrifying to someone who has three granddaughters that I cannot express my shock," said Hartle.

"How someone could harm a child that is so tender and vulnerable is beyond my wildest imaginations," she said, "but when a woman can and does violate that child sexually it is somehow more devastating than even when you hear of these things being done by men."

The "Butterfly Kisses" website indicates it is hosted by an entity called "Ipce," which describes itself as a "forum for people who are engaged in scholarly discussion about the understanding and emancipation of mutual relationships between children or adolescents and adults."

The Ipce description says, "In this context, these relationships are intended to be viewed from an unbiased, non-judgmental perspective and in relation to the human rights of both the young and adult partners."


Global scope

The Butterfly Kisses and Ipce sites have Web addresses that indicate their origin in the Netherlands. A story in the Autumn 1987 issue of the Dutch-based Paidika: Journal of Paedophilia recalls "The Dutch Paedophile Emancipation Movement" which led to the world's most liberal laws on pedophilia.

Dutch law permits sex between an adult and a person as young as 12 if the younger person consents.

Can legal action be taken against a site like "Butterfly Kisses," which promotes an act barred by U.S. state laws?

A private agency called Web Police, which investigates complaints of abuse on the Internet, notes that U.S. laws do not apply to the global Internet.

"We would have an officer in the Netherlands address it according to the country's laws, morals and code of ethics," said Peter Hampton, the founder of Web Police and several related agencies. "We can't tell Holland what should or should not be on the Internet."

But not much would likely be done in the Netherlands either, Hampton told WorldNetDaily.

"Their problem is the same that the United States has," he said. "No. 1, there has to be a law enacted that addresses the Internet directly."

Then, said Hampton, you would need to find a police investigator, prosecutor, judge and jury who all have the experience to address an Internet-related case.

"The majority of the time you're not going to find any of those, and that's where you run into your stone wall," he said. "So then we have to go directly to the suspect and see if we can resolve it without the necessity of going through all that expense and trouble."

Hampton said he works regularly with the FBI, but "they've got their hands full" with thousands of complaints every day.

"We get 1,500 a day, so I can imagine what the FBI gets," he said. "They simply can't address all these issues and try to prosecute them. They don't have the manpower and they don't have the teeth in the laws. The president himself has said hands off the Internet, it's an international community."


Underestimated problem

How prevalent is pedophilia among women?

Hampton says that he gets an average of more than 200 reports related to female pedophilia on the Internet each day, including websites, message boards and other forums.

It's growing, he says of the presence of female pedophilia on the Web, though sites related to male pedophilia are increasing at about 10 times the rate.

"But I was surprised that this was even an issue," he said of female pedophilia. "It's been since about two years ago that we've found it to be quite prevalent."

Linda Halliday-Sumner, a sexual abuse consultant in Courtenay, B.C., Canada, told WND that when she first began in 1980, about 1.5 percent of her cases were women who abuse minors. Within six years that increased to 11 to 13 percent. In the last 10 years, she said, at least 33 percent of her 325 cases a year have been women.

"It is very underreported," she said of the incidences of abuse by females. "When it is reported it's often dismissed or laughed at as not being serious. Motherhood and apple pie, you know – we don't do that sort of thing."

Much of the opposition has been from women's groups.

"I have been strongly attacked and criticized because I've spoken out about female offenders," she said.

The Journal of Paedophilia devoted an entire issue to the subject of women in 1992. In the introductory article, which is posted on "Butterfly Kisses," Marjan Sax and Sjuul Deckwitz write that while little is known about it, "As we dug more deeply into our subject we discovered that erotic and sexual contacts between women and children under the age of consent do indeed occur. In speaking with female friends, once the shock of embarking on a discussion of the concept of paedophilia wore off, countless stories came out."

Studies in the 1980s by researchers David Finkelhor and Diana Russell estimated that in the United States about 14 percent of abuse cases involving boys were perpetrated by females. About 6 percent of the cases were of women who abuse girls.

While these studies give some clues, the true number of women who have sexual contact with children is probably severely underestimated, according to German psychologist Marina Knopf. In an article on "Butterfly Kisses" titled "Sexual Contacts Between Women and Children: Reflections on an Unrealizable Research Project," Knopf said that this could be because contacts by women are more of a taboo than those by men.

She writes that it "is less spoken of, more hidden, and the women do not have any groups they attend or have formed themselves as do men. ... The strength of this taboo might help explain the enormous difficulty we had in finding women to interview."

Well-known pedophile advocate Pat Califia, who has spoken at mainstream institutions such as Penn State University, writes in an article posted on the "Butterfly Kisses" site that, "It is possible that sexual activity occurs more often between mothers and children or other women than between men and children. Women have more access to kids, and there are fewer taboos surrounding women's handling young people's bodies."

Over the past ten years, book titles have included "Female Sexual Abuse of Children," published in 1993 by Guilford Press, "When She was Bad: Violent Women and the Myth of Innocence," 1997 by Penguin Putnam, Inc. and "The Last Secret: Daughters Sexually Abused by Mothers," by Safer Society Press.

"The incidence of mother-daughter sexual abuse is unknown because it is a grossly underreported crime," according to a group called Making Daughters Safe Again, which calls itself the "only organization in the world specializing in mother-daughter sexual abuse."

Among the membership, comprised of women who were abused by their mothers, less than 1 percent report that any intervention occurred. An article on the MDSA website cites reasons for that, such as "the extreme rarity of the offender seeking treatment, the victim reporting the abuse, or the authorities discovering the crime." Other reasons include the fact that "therapists, social workers, doctors, teachers, etc., know very little about this form of abuse and/or do not consider it a possibility." Also, "perpetrators overwhelmingly appear like 'normal' caring mothers."

One MDSA member says about abuse by mothers: "I think that there is such a stigma to it. People don't want to hear about it and don't want to know about it. I think it must be really hard for people to hear that someone who is supposed to be so supportive of us can betray us so badly."

A recent article by MDSA, which cites research on the subject, says that in the past 20 years, "the incidence of child sexual abuse jumped from just one in a million to one in four or five children," according to a study by researcher Anne Stirling Hastings in 2000.

"In this time," the article says, "the conception of female children as victims of inappropriate male sexual behavior has dominated the research, and thus our understanding of child sexual abuse. However, recent research consistently reveals that females account for about one in four offenders," according to Patricia Pearson's 1997 study.

In their introduction to the Journal of Paedophilia issue about women, Sax and Deckwitz go on to say, "When we embarked on this study we were also surprised that so little consideration had been given to the positive, fruitful side of relationships between adult women and minors. In conversations with female friends, we heard so many happy stories, related with genuine pleasure, that our feeling was strengthened that presenting a positive view of relationships between women and young people was indeed justified."


Big Sisters

The "Butterfly Kisses" site includes links to branches of the Big Sisters organization and Girl Scout websites, suggesting that these groups present good opportunities for women who desire sexual relationships with girls.

Resources on the pro-pedophile site include articles under the heading of "Girl Scouts and Mentoring" with titles such as "Women Mentoring Girls," "Big Sisters," and "Lesbians are to Scouting as Sunshine is to Summer."

In the site's reader forum, a participant identified as "Jean" posted a message Sept. 16, 2001, that said "this is the neatest forum. I have always been attracted to little girls (8-10 yr olds)."

"Jean" said she is a volunteer swimming instructor and asked members of the forum for their advice on "making little girlfriends."

The following day, "Poppy" wrote back and said, "You already have a convenient access to little girls as a swimming coach. Try showing them that you care about them more than your job asks you, i.e., help them with their daily problems, get to know them and become close with the girls who admire you."

Like "Poppy," many of the voices on the "Butterfly Kisses" site insist that they engage only in consensual relationships with children. "Poppy" suggested to the swimming instructor that she could offer to give a little course in kissing to a girl who seems to be flirting with her.

"But whatever you do," she advised, "don't force them to do anything they don't like. Good luck!"

Sax and Deckwitz try to address the obvious argument that "because of the difference in ages, a relationship between a minor and an adult is necessarily characterized by too great a power imbalance. The basis of this objection is that young people cannot always foresee the consequences of their actions, and that creates an opportunity for adults to use, or abuse, them. The wishes of the child are subordinated to those of the adult."

The authors object to that concern, however, arguing that "there is a power differential in every relationship. With children, great power differences play a role in their relationships with their parents, teachers, and even sometimes with their peers. We are dissatisfied with condemnations based on power imbalances."


Asserting rights

Like male pedophile advocates, many female promoters believe that children are being oppressed by adults who have taken away their right to fully express their sexuality in any way they see fit.

"Butterfly Kisses" includes a section called "Rights Advocacy" with titles such as "Feminism, Pedophilia and Children's Rights," by Pat Califia, "A Child's Sexual Bill of Rights," "The North American Woman-Girl Love Association" and "Sexual Revolution and the Liberation of Children," by well-known feminist Kate Millett.

Unlike the male homosexual movement, says researcher Reisman, author of "Kinsey: Crimes & Consequences," "the feminist movement – and that includes the lesbian movement – has been vocal about 'It's not right to have sex with kids.'"

Nevertheless, Millett, author of the 1970 feminist tome "Sexual Politics," said in a 1980 interview reprinted in the book "The Age of Taboo," that "certainly, one of children's essential rights is to express themselves sexually, probably primarily with each other but with adults as well."

"Do you think that a tender, loving erotic relationship can exist between a boy and a man?" Millett was asked.

"Of course," she answered, "or between a female child and an older woman. Men and women have loved each other for millennia, as have people of different races. What I'm concerned about is the inequitous context within which these relationships must exist. Of course, these relationships can be non-exploitative and considering the circumstances they are probably heroic and very wonderful; but we have to admit that they can be exploitative as well – like in the prostitution of youth."

"Sexual Rights of Children," is an article published in 2000 by the Institute for Advanced Study of Human Sexuality in San Francisco, which was founded by associates of famed sex researcher Alfred Kinsey, a pedophile, according to Reisman's carefully documented research. The article states that there is "considerable evidence" that there is no "inherent harm in sexual expression in childhood."

While some believe they have "scientific evidence" to support that assessment, the wounded lives of members of Making Daughters Safe Again present a stark contradiction.

"Too often, I prefer to be alone, because my heavy heart is too full of past pain," said one member. "My children get either a robotic mom, a sad mom or an empty mom. There are times when I meet their emotional needs, but there are times when I need to, want to and can't. I have to heal before it is too late."

Another lamented that "as a child my body belonged to someone else and I had no boundaries. I never felt safe or whole. It almost feels like you are someone else. Almost as if you are the abuser. That you and her are one person."
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My current recommended archive of BK is via Katie Cruz:

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It would be nice to know if there is anything in this site which might be useful to the following article:

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From this point, someone can go on to build personal statements and talking points that are hostile and confrontative towards radical, conservative/anti-sex lesbian feminism.
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Male Only Myth

One of the many myths surrounding the phenomenon of pedophilia is that it is a male only attraction. Many male pedophiles think it somewhat unusual when they find that some teenage girls, young women, and mature ladies are, like them, attracted to prepubescent children. The mainstream majority seldom, if ever, gives female pedophilia very much thought at all, believing that it is essentially a male perversion. The so-called experts put female pedophilia in the less than one percent category but indicate that it is on the increase.

Dr Frans E. J. Gieles, of The Netherlands, in his prepared data for those attending his lectures on "Helping People With Pedophilic Feelings, (World Congress of Sexology in Paris - June 2001 and the Congress of the Nordic Association of Sexology, Visby, Sweden, September2001)says, "In 1994, less than one percent of all incarcerated rape and sexual assault offenders were female (fewer than 800 women) (Greenfeld,1997). By 1997, however, 6,292 females had been arrested for forcible rape or other sex offenses, constituting approximately eight percent of all rape and sexual assault arrests for that year (FBI, 1997). Additionally, studies indicate that females commit approximately 20% of sex offenses against children (ATSA, 1996). Males commit the majority of sex offenses but females commit some, particularly against children."

This indicates that female Child Lovers are not as rare as most people think. In fact, they have their own web sites, and like their male counterparts, (both Girl Lovers and Boy Lovers) are in the beginning stages of online community building. One such site, entitled "Female Childlove," has under its heading, "…You're not the only one!". In their welcoming paragraph they say, "This is a site where female childlovers can seriously discuss female childlove or look for information on the subject. If you have SPECIAL feelings for children (girls and/or boys)and are female just like us, you have definitely come to the right place." There is also another related site, run by the same people, called "Butterfly Kisses", which is now for members only. Under its banner are the words, "Celebrating love between women and girls".

Just as in the male pedophile communities, there are gay, heterosexual, and bi-sexual childlovers among youth-attracted women. But, are the challenges they face the same as men? Do they have it easier, harder, or do they simply have a different perspective on their attractions than men do? In her answer to the recent questionnaire sent out by YANI, one young woman, PT, had this to say, "My parents know, but don't seem to take it very seriously. If I were a boy, they'd probably be more concerned".

PT is an 18-year-old woman. She first discovered her special love for children at 15 but thought it was just a passing stage she was going through. At 16 however, she began to realize that her sexual interest in kids was not going away. But, PT also had concerns that she might be a lesbian. It took an incident in her high school English class to clarify her feelings, and consolidate them in her mind. It was then that she realized that she was indeed a pedophile.

PT put it this way,"Well, at the age of 10, 11, 12, I was attracted to people my own age… I was more concerned about being a lesbian than anything else. And then my age of attraction just stopped growing as I got older. I first saw the term "pedophiles" in a sci-fi book (and wondered "what the heck is ‘pedo-OHPH-o-leese?'") But…the time I really started associating myself with that term was the year in English class when we read several books dealing with the subject, and suffered through the teacher's exclamations of "EEWW! That character is attracted to a nine-year-old! Isn't that disgusting?" type of thing." After her epiphany in English class, P.T. goes on to say, "I felt…strangely unsafe in that class sometimes."

All human beings have a need to belong and to be accepted. Pedophiles are no different. Both young men and women have told this writer that feelings of aloneness, despair, disgust, and poor self-image are either caused or exacerbated by their knowledge that society, including their roles models; parents, and teachers, would condemn, rather than extend a helping hand, if they found out about these "strange attractions." It seems clear that lack of acceptance of their orientation, combined with their fear of being associated with it, contribute greatly to the social and emotional difficulties with which these young emerging pedophiles find themselves. Some questions for parents and others in the mainstream come to mind. "How do young people react when they are forced to deny and repress a significant part of who they are? What happens to their psycho-sexual development when there is no one with whom they can confide?" And, "Are your children safer because emerging young pedophiles are in emotional and social isolation?"

Another respondent to our questionnaire was a 23-year-old woman whom we will call A.L. She first realized her attractions to children at the age of 14, but she had known she had a "special" kind of love for young girls, that others her age did not, when she was only 11. When asked how she felt when she first discovered she was a pedophile, her answer was, "Disgusted with myself. A lesbian and a pedophile? What's wrong with me?" She suffered from low self-esteem as she wondered if, "I was the only female pedophile on the planet earth." In fact, her self-esteem was so low that she said, "I contemplated suicide or self mutilation a number of times early in my life due to guilt and shame about having my sexual attractions." In an attempt to soften her feelings of self disgust, A.L. began to examine her past to try and find the root cause of her pedophilia. "How did this happen to me?" she wondered. "Can I trace it back to something someone did to me when I was young?" Raised in a strict Christian household, A.L. was not about to ask for help. She says, "I didn't dare tell anyone! I was scared someone (my parents) would find me out and send me to a mental health facility".

When compared to men, A.L. points out that there are advantages and disadvantages for young women. She points out that teenage girls have greater access to young children through babysitting and other socially accepted activities that boys usually do not. The fact that most people do not think of young girls as having pedophilic thoughts and feelings means that she is not suspected of harboring any motives other than the"normal" nurturing and child care propensities that people assume every young girl possesses.

For A.L. however, the disadvantages include some of the same ones that her same-age-attracted heterosexual "sisters" have. That is, "women are not allowed to show or act on their adult heterosexual feelings (Madonna/whore syndrome) in North American society. (You don't want to get a bad reputation) Now with female pedophilia, the stigma is magnified a thousand-fold more than it is for men." She also wants us to know, "The society at large is harsher in its disgust of female pedos than males since women are supposed to be the ‘voice of morality' and non-sexual mothers". But she also asks, "How much mother/child love is sexual but sub-conscious?"

The experiences of both the young male and young female pedophile have much in common. Although each incorporates this aspect of themselves into their specific male and female characteristics, the end result comes out much the same. When a young man does not have a girlfriend, others may suspect he is gay. When a young woman does not have a boyfriend, she must be a lesbian. Meanwhile, internally, the young person knows the truth but cannot share it with anyone for fear of serious repercussions. Family and friends cannot figure out why he or she is always depressed, sometimes angry, has low self-esteem, and seldom if ever has a date. It is the contention of this writer that having to keep "The Secret", is the root cause of much of the emotional turmoil encountered by people, young or old, male or female, who are involved with the phenomenon of pedophilia.

Western society, especially in North America, has two diametrically opposed attitudes concerning human sexuality. On the one hand, sex is used to sell everything from clothes to auto insurance. It is all around us. Television shows, even those whose audiences are composed of mainly children, are filled with sexual innuendo and often more. Young people are exposed to all manner of sexual situations through movies, the internet, and social interactions. They know many adults are cheating on their spouses, having sex with different partners, and freely satisfying their libidos. All the while, these same adults raise their eyebrows, chastise, condemn, and demand abstinence from their children. It is a classic example of the discredited child raising technique, "Do as I say, not as I do." While the adults are trying to satisfy their own libidos, they are worried sick that their child maybe doing likewise.

Society's dilemma then, is how to be supportive of the young person's pedophilic orientation without seeming to condone its manifestation. The best a young pedophile can hope for from his/her culture is, "I understand your feelings." What then, can be done to help the emerging pedophile grow up with a positive self-image and to help him/her lead amoral and ethical life?

One of the answers is research. The fact is, we do not know what causes kids to grow up and become pedophile. The reasons are as varied and individual as any other orientation. It is time for new studies to help determine what combination of genetic and environmental variables come together to form the attraction base that young people will carry with them for the rest of their lives. Where is the 21st century's Kinsey, or Masters and Johnson? The seemingly simple act of condemning as unnatural, and then prohibiting pedophilia, is a failed strategy. It is a historical fact that prohibition causes more problems than it solves. And, repression of a young person's sexual orientation only drives it underground, where all social controls and safety nets are suspended.

Pedophilia is not an exclusively male domain. There are young girls who are growing up with secret attractions to young children, and have nowhere to turn for support. Despite society's best efforts to repress and deny their existence, these young girls (like the boys) are emerging and entering the world of adulthood. It would benefit us to accept them for who they are rather than for who we wish them to be. This means defining roles for them which are compatible with their true nature. They also need the opportunity to talk to a counsellor, teacher, or parent without fear of recrimination. This would allow them to develop a sense of who they are, so that they could then lead their lives in a positive, safe, and self-affirming manner. Ignoring their problems and sweeping them under the rug as if they didn't exist, is very likely to result in emotionally crippled teenagers, who in turn, become dysfunctional adults. If there is a monster in our midst, s/he, like Dr. Frankenstein's monster, is one of human creation.
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Sexual Contacts Between Women and Children:
Reflections on an Unrealizable Research Project
by Marina Knopf


"That she might seduce a helpless child is unthinkable, and even if she did so, what harm can be done without a penis."1

This sentence summarizes the attitudes that I was to encounter when I began research into the existence, prevalence, and nature of sexual relations between women and children. The project was begun in the summer of 1989 at the Institut fur empirische und angewandte Soziologie der Universitat Bremen (Institute for Empirical and Applied Sociology at the University of Bremen), and financed by the Deutsche Forschungsgemeinschaft (the German Research Community). The official topic was the "phenomenology of sexual contacts between adults and children." The initial research plan was to carry out interviews with men and women alike who had had sexual relationships with boys and girls. The interviews were to be thorough and open-ended. We limited ourselves to contacts outside the family.

Most research excludes women ab initio, and those that do include data about women usually indicate that a very small number of women are involved in known sexual acts occurring between adults and children. The numbers range between 0 and 6% of the recorded cases.2 Almost all of the few available works that deal specifically with women relate to cases of incest.3 These cases are always defined as "sexual abuse" or "molestation," the children as "victims," and the women as "perpetrators" or "offenders." If one is skeptical about the blanket condemnation of all sexual acts between adults and children implicit in these definitions and would prefer, instead, to obtain concrete information about such relations, then there is indeed very little research to which one can refer.4

Although paedophile men could be reached for the research interviews through their support groups, there was no known way to reach women; neither organizations nor a subculture seemed to exist. It seemed likely that these women suffered a great deal of isolation, and it occurred to me that perhaps the "refuge" for women involved in such sexually different behavior might be the lesbian scene where there was a breaking with social taboos. Inquiries within the lesbian community, however, proved fruitless.

Through various enquiries I learned of a group of women calling themselves the "Kanalratten" (Sewer rats) existed in Berlin.5 When these women appeared during the Berlin Lesbian Week, there was a scandal. They were promoting female "paedophilia" as a means of liberating children. In their publication, Kanalrattenzeitung (Sewer rat news), they wrote:
we define female paedophilia as love between girls and adult women which is voluntary and includes sexual satisfaction; it is not a form of domination over other people since it is a form of life in which we have no need to dominate or possess children. we wish to live without power over children and without the lifeless sexuality of adults. Adult sexuality means the destruction of life and the environment. the destruction of the environment precedes the destruction of child sexuality.6

It was very difficult to arrange a meeting with the "Sewer Rats," and when we finally agreed on a time and place in Berlin, the meeting never occurred. It appears that the group's mistrust of the scientific establishment ultimately prevailed.

A further possible source for subjects was clinics with sexual counselling or sexual medicine departments in Hamburg, Kiel, Frankfurt am Main, Heidelberg, and Munich. I also contacted the various women's counselling offices and the Pro Familia organization in Bremen. I thought that perhaps women might turn to institutions where sexual problems were treated. But this, too, turned out to be a dead-end.

Other avenues I tried certainly produced considerable interest and a great many reactions: advertisements in the contact pages of several city papers in Hamburg, Bremen, Berlin, Cologne, and Dortmund, and in two nudist magazines; an appeal in a women's periodical, and an article about the project in a daily newspaper. I received much mail expressing a wide variety of opinions on the subject, requests for information, and even suggestions. Some women related their own experiences, but only a very few were prepared to be interviewed.

At first glance my difficulty in finding subjects might be thought to confirm the notion that sexual contacts between women and children were rare exceptions. Although my efforts at recruitment were disappointing, I was not convinced that the phenomenon was so extremely rare among women. While it cannot by any means be cited as proof, some authors have stated that women could have sexual contacts with children within the context of their daily private or professional lives, while easily keeping the activities hidden.7 The thinking here is that tender, caring touching of children by women is allowed and even considered desirable. Children become accustomed to being touched by women and do not perceive this as remarkable, even if the touching were to become sexually colored. Relationships which are defined by great emotional and physical closeness, such as those between women and children, might be thought to have an erotic tinge. Precisely where the border might he between permissible affection and forbidden sexuality is not clear.

The mother-child relationship is the paradigm for the woman-child relationship. For all women, socialization includes training in mothering, by which their attitudes toward children are largely determined. The mother-child relationship is characterized by an almost limitless intimacy and by a form of love which suppresses and even denies the sexual. Gunter Schmidt describes the modern parent-child relationship in the nuclear family, which arose during the industrial revolution, as follows:
This closeness creates anxiety about the overflowing of familial affection into the sexual.. For this reason, too, one has to guard against the expression of sexuality by children, which indeed reminds one of this possibility. In fact, no family needs the incest taboo as much as the bourgeois nuclear family.8

Such a strong taboo could help explain why strong feelings of guilt might emerge from sexual acts between women and children. Such feelings are evident in a letter from a 26-year-old woman who maintained a sexual contact with an 8-year-old-girl for several months and who replied to one of our contact ads:
If my husband or my mother learned of it, my marriage would surely be over and I would kill myself.. Yes, I would so gladly blurt out everything. Everything. I have the feeling that things would then be better and the burden would be lifted from me... Write to me quickly, before I lose courage again. I don't believe that I can carry this burden alone for long.

The paedosexual taboo might be felt so strongly by women precisely because the opportunities for breaking it lie so close at hand. Because of their special closeness to children, for women the paedosexual attraction, as well as the taboo, could be greater than for men. The dynamic between the attraction and the taboo could account for the strong reactions and forceful rejections that we encountered among women, especially in "progressive" circles. The magazine Brigitte, for example, refused to publish our appeal to their readers. They told us that they found the subject of our research too repulsive. The strongest criticism came from those trying to help the victims of sexual violence. I was asked why I did not want to speak out on behalf of girls mistreated by men, instead of being interested in paedophile relationships involving women and children.

Surely there are good reasons for conceiving of women exclusively as victims in sexual relationships-there is anxiety about surrendering hard-won territory. It is only little by little that a consciousness has emerged about the prevalence of sexual violence by men against women and girls. To suggest that the border between "perpetrator" and "victim" does not always coincide with the border between the sexes is to challenge many prevailing assumptions. Identification with the victim-model serves to protect women from their own sexual desires and accompanying bad conscience; they can remain in a state of innocence. The victim-model also reinforces the image of the desexualized woman. While women are surely also victimized, it does not seem to me to be helpful to fight this by creating additional taboos and forbidden thoughts. We should even have the courage to assess the radical question of whether sexual relations between adults and children are thinkable, that is, relationships in which there are no victims, but only two partners, even if unequal ones.

Not only within the women's movement but also in the sexological community, barriers to the perception of sexual contacts between women and children prevail.9 In sexology, the male view determines what is designated as sexual. The yardsticks used are the definitions and concepts that were first "invented" for the description of male sexuality and which were later applied to female sexuality.

It might often be the case that sexual contacts between women and children do not correspond at all to the picture of sexuality as defined in the male view and might therefore not be perceived as such, even when the woman feels sexually aroused. It is even probable that women-in accordance with the prevailing definition of sexuality-do not experience what they experience with children as "true" sexuality, because women have no sexual definition for what transpires sexually between them and children. It appears at least plausible that women, when approached for our project, did not feel that the questions posed were in any way relevant to them.


Literary Accounts and Empirical Studies

Autobiographical accounts indicate that sexual encounters between boys and considerably older women appear not to have been unusual until well into this century. The film director Ingmar Bergman describes in his autobiography an experience he had with a widowed acquaintance of his parents, with whom he lived for a time:
One evening I was to be bathed. The housemaid filled the bathtub and poured something in that smelled good. Alla Pitreus knocked on the door and asked if I had fallen asleep. When I did not answer, she entered. She was wearing a green bathrobe, which she immediately took off. She explained that she wanted to scrub my back. I turned around and she also stepped into the bath, soaped me, brushed me with a hard brush, and rinsed me with her soft hands. Then she took my hand, drew it to her, and put it between her thighs. My heart was bearing in my throat. She spread my fingers and pressed them deeper into her lap. With her other hand she clasped my sex, startled and wide awake. She cautiously drew back the foreskin and carefully removed a white material that had collected around the glans. Everything was pleasant and also did not frighten me in the least. She held me firmly between her strong, soft thighs, and without resistance and without fear I let myself sway in a strong, almost painful, pleasure. I was eight or perhaps nine years old."10

The first volume of the ten-volume My Secret Life, the erotic autobiography of a well-to-do Victorian Englishman, deals exclusively with the boyhood sexual experiences of the author with various adult female acquaintances, relatives, and family servants. There is good reason to think that the experiences reported are authentic, even if the pornographic fantasies and projections of the author do play a role.11 Even if, as Marcus has shown, not all of the episodes described by the author are factual, the book is a vivid and realistic picture of sexual culture in the Victorian age.

Sexual encounters with older women appear not to have been unusual in the period. Scientific publications from the beginning of this century contain innumerable accounts of sexual acts between women and prepubertal boys. For example, Krafft-Ebing speaks in his Psychopathia Sexualis of a "rather large number of cases" of lascivious servants, nannies, and even female relatives, who in an abominable way use the boys entrusted to them for sexual intercourse."12 Ferenczi also reports such experiences."13

Current criminological statistics regarding adults who as children had sex with either men or women suggest that the number of those who had sex with men was greater than those who had sex with women. The percentage of female "perpetrators" reported is from 0 to 6%, although 16% of the men interviewed said that as children they had sex with women, a disparity of 10%.14 This 10% discrepancy might suggest that contacts do take place which do not become public and are therefore not included in the criminal statistics.

We might also cite other data: for example, 16% of male university students and 45% of male prisoners questioned by Condy state that before age 16 they had had sexual experiences with one or more women who were at least five years older than they were.15 These experiences were mainly with women who were not family members: girl friends, neighbors, teachers, babysitters, and strangers. In the majority of the cases, the sexual acts took place with mutual consent. More than half of the men judged the experiences to be positive. The judgement passed on the sexual contact was largely, although not entirely, dependent on the type of relationship. Extra-familial relationships were more often considered positive than experiences with mothers, aunts, and sisters. Perhaps sexual encounters that take place outside of the family make it easier to withdraw from unwanted acts. Boys, particularly teenagers, might view these contacts as a confirmation of their masculinity. Condy concluded, "The findings indicate that heterosexual activity (between women and boys) does not appear to be such a rarity as some sexology authorities had previously believed."16

Finkelhor, in the "Nursery Crimes" study on sexual abuse in American day-care centers, found that of 270 cases, 222 were with men and 147 were with women (some cases involved both a man and a woman).17


The Circumstances of the Relationships

Although the research plan-to gather empirical data systematically, using interviews-failed for various reasons, some interesting and heterogeneous material did emerge from the effort. It is worth presenting here because the state of such research is so dismal. In spite of obvious limitations, the experiences recorded from quite different sources will be used below to construct a hypothesis about the possible structure, emotional as well as sexual, of contacts between women and children. In reviewing all the information obtained from conversations with colleagues, examples from literature, correspondence, and interviews with women involved, three possible models for such relationships emerged. Each is based on a different motivation on the part of the women. The possibilities identified are: relationships in which the child functions as a substitute for an adult partner; relationships in which the "childishness" is an essential element of the sexual attraction (i.e., paedophile relationships in the classical sense); and experimental sexual contacts. Each of these models is illustrated by examples taken from the discussions with women regarding their experiences.


The Child as a Substitute for an Adult Partner

In this model, the child partners are mostly boys aged 10 and up. The women justify the paedosexual acts because they involved love. They emphasize that the boys participated voluntarily. The relationship, they say, had only positive effects on the child. The sexual acts were a form of sex education through practice. Guilty feelings or a bad conscience are rarely found in the reports of women in this category.

Brandenburg quotes from the interrogation of a 23-year-old female suspect who had worked as a housemaid in a children's home where she had sexual contacts with a 12-year-old boy: "T. awakened in me feelings that I had not known in recent years. I felt myself drawn to him and sensed a genuine love for him. I wanted to wait for the boy and later marry him."18


In the other reports which we might also include in this category, the women described their sexual relations with adult men as unsatisfactory, and themselves as lonely. Kiefl and Lamnack quote a case involving a 28-year-old housewife who, abandoned by her husband, had a five-month sexual relation with a 13-year-old boy who worked for her as a baby-sitter. In her final statement during the court proceedings, the woman said: "I regret it, but I was very lonely."19

Especially striking for me was the case of Frau A., who had answered one of our ads. She was 26 years old, attractive, aware, and working at the time as a nude model and nurse's aide. She met her 12-year-old, sexually-inexperienced partner in the hospital where she worked. He had been a patient. She said that she really found adult men more interesting, and had several sexual friendships. While the boy was in the hospital, their mutual attraction developed; at first, her intentions were simply friendly. After the boy was released, the two maintained contact. Then, he declared that he had fallen in love with her and wanted to have sex. At first she resisted him, but when her current love affair broke up, she found the boy's sexual advances increasingly alluring. The final move came from her-she seduced him. A solid friendship, including regular sexual contacts, lasted for about six months. She said that everything he knew about sex he had learned from her, and that this had made him very compatible. From a purely sexual point of view, it had been one of her best, most fulfilling experiences. She thought that he could only have profited from it. More important than the sexuality had been their togetherness, their tenderness, their ability to laugh together. She had never experienced anything as beautiful with an adult partner, though she did say that she thought of the boy more as a man than as a child. In fact, she detested the idea of sexual acts with children. They separated, she said, because her expectations for relationships could not be fulfilled by someone as young as he. This had caused her a good deal of pain; she had been infatuated with him. They still met occasionally, but only in friendship. When we interviewed her, Frau A. was living with a man her own age, and the boy now had a girlfriend his own age.


"Childishness" as the Main Component of the Sexual Attraction

In this category of relationships, the child does not function as a substitute adult, is not conceived of as "almost adult," but rather is desired precisely because of specific characteristics having to do with childhood. These relationships might best be labelled "paedophile." The hairless body, innocence, and unaffectedness are important elements in the sexual attraction. In contrast to the women in the first group, it is striking that these women clearly experienced more guilt. One explanation might be that they had a greater sense of breaking a taboo by sexualizing their relationship with a child. They are conscious of loving children because of their childishness. I was able to interview Frau B., but Frau C. and Frau D. were not willing to be interviewed because of their anxiety about criminal prosecution; their guilt, or fear, was simply too great. I did, however, correspond with Frau C. and Frau D.

Frau B. is 26 years old and lives with her boyfriend and their five-year-old daughter. She has no professional training and earns money from various temporary jobs. She has tried to hide her feelings from herself, but now admits that her sexual interest centers on girls aged ten to puberty. She catches herself staring at the "place between their legs." She fantasizes about satisfying the girl orally. What she finds arousing is the budding sexuality of the girl and the idea that she would be the one to give the girl her first sudden understanding of it. She enjoys the feeling of superiority that this affords her. She remembers that, when she was about ten years old, she wanted to be initiated into sexuality by an adult man. She wants to do this for the girl, but she also cannot imagine turning her fantasy into reality. There are too many restraints. She also says that she has had lesbian experiences with other adult women, which she did not find so difficult to act out because she did not feel such a strong taboo against it. The need for lesbian sex was also more pressing than the need for sex with a child.

Frau C. is also 26 years old. She had lived with her mother until her marriage the year before. The experience she reported had occurred five years earlier, when she was still attending business school. A neighbor's 8-year-old daughter often stopped by her house; she Eked to romp around with the child and enjoyed her warmth and tenderness. She soon began to realize that she also felt physical desire for her. It all came about very naturally and innocently. One day, while playing with the child, Frau C. had gently brought the play around to a sexual game of mutual touching of the genitals. This led to oral genital contact, and to mutual digital vaginal and anal penetration. The relationship lasted several months. She said that she had enjoyed it very much, but that she had also felt a good deal of anxiety and guilt. She was happy when it was over, even though she still sometimes looks back on it with pleasure. Because of her strong guilt feelings, she has since visited a psychological counselling center a few times.

Frau D. is exclusively interested in prepubertal boys, and therefore most nearly fits the strict definition of a paedophile. She is 23 years old and works as a children's nurse. Since age 16 she has had sexual relations with boys as young as 6. She can recall at least 10 to 15 different contacts. When the boys reach puberty she loses sexual interest in them. Up until that time she likes their unaffectedness and their hairless bodies. Her current boyfriend is 13. She met him at a nudist campsite about three years ago. They meet once or twice a week. She says that it is very important for the boy that she is older and takes him so seriously. Both of them initiate the sex, which for the past two years has also included intercourse. The boy's parents know about their friendship, but not about the sexuality. She has not had any encounters with the police, but now and then she fears being blackmailed by one of her boyfriends. For the most part, however, she feels secure, because she has not imposed anything on the boys or done anything they did not want.


Experimental Sexual Contacts

It is striking to find in the sexual-abuse literature that those women designated as perpetrators are often quite young themselves, under 20, and that they have had sex with children entrusted to them.20 These cases are sometimes labelled "baby-sitter abuse." The girls are described as lonely and shy. Their stated motive is sexual curiosity and is often with very young and dependent children. The contacts seem to produce less anxiety in the woman than sexual contacts with peers. Frau R, for example, reported that she remembers her 18-year-old nursemaid taking her, as a very young girl, into train station toilets, where her nursemaid had touched her genitals with her hand or mouth. She recalls this experience as being very unpleasant, and it left a deep impression on her.


Conclusions

The assumption that sexual contacts between women and children are structured in a way similar to relations between men and children, and may be researched in a similar way, seems untenable, even given the sparse data available. Women and men have gender-specific, substantially different roles they play in their associations with children. Sexual contacts between women and children also appear to be more of a taboo than sexual relations between men and children. As we have already noted, it is less spoken of, more hidden, and the women do not have any groups they attend or have formed themselves as do men, with the possible exception of the Kanalratten. The strength of this taboo might help explain the enormous difficulty we had in finding women to interview.

Those women who do describe their experiences with children as explicitly sexual probably reflect only a part of a wider, more complicated reality that involves sensual or erotic contacts which are perceived by the women as "natural" or "ordinary." These have until now escaped scientific research. Regrettably, they have not escaped media attention, which has generally caused more harm than good. At first the media reported only sexual abuse by fathers and other men, but now women, and especially mothers, have been discovered as a new perpetrator group. Of course, subtleties of differentiation between women and men are unknown in such media descriptions. Der Spiegel, under the headline "When mother loves too much," showed a photo of a nursing woman they had captioned, "Satisfying her own needs?" The same magazine claimed that a mother sharing a bathtub with her son was "an excessively intimate relationship."21

When sexual abuse was first discussed, it was, perhaps, important to break the long silence about sexual violence against children. Today, however, new taboos and forbidden thoughts threaten a more serious discussion. The so-called openness of the media stresses the monstrosity of such acts. The origin of the incest taboo, the assumptions upon which it is based, and its function are no longer discussed. Instead, we read such pseudo-historical, ideological remarks as: "From antiquity into the 19th century the child lived during the first years of life in an atmosphere of sexual abuse."22 The way in which the German media seizes on the theme clearly shows that it has no desire to educate the public. The press is more interested in stirring up emotions or exciting voyeuristic, vicarious desires, which, of course, must be mixed with disgust and the call for punishment. In consuming such reports, the public takes "pleasure in an unprincipled swindle," as Katharina Rutschky (1990) has explained.
Far from awakening the necessary surprise of an until-then perhaps unknowing public, taboo violations are staged for the release of sadomasochistic fantasies, against which the consciousness protects itself, in an apparently morally irreproachable way, by taking the side of the victim.23

There should be no doubt that the debate should be carried out in a more discriminating way, that the matter should be more closely examined, and that hasty judgments should not be made. As far as sexual contacts between adults and children are concerned, "blind apologies are not suitable, nor are moral devaluations and declarations of scruples, impulses for revenge, and generalized positions either pro or con...."24

Sexual relationships between adults and children came to my attention through my work at the Farmhenplanungszentrum Hamburg (Hamburg Family Planning Center), where I am a counsellor. The Center is often visited by women or girls who were or are exposed to sexual violence by their fathers or other men. They have, thereby, been seriously harmed physically and psychically, often over a period of several years, and especially regarding their sexuality. In work with the Bremer Forschungsprojekt (Bremen Research Project), I have usually questioned paedophile men about their sexual relations with children. From many of the interviews I gained the impression that these relationships cannot be equated with sexual violence.

Given the complexity and varieties of paedosexual relations, and given the individual problems these relationships face, simplistic evaluations are inadequate. The contradictions between existing theory and my own observations were all too glaring. These relationships simply cannot be reduced to sexual acts. A discussion of the harmfulness of a sexual act in and of itself is not a sufficient discussion. These relationships, for example, are a form of social relationship whose structure is an important element of the psychosexual development of the child. Questions regarding the gender of the adult or child and the distinction between contacts inside or outside the family are of central importance. More than is the case with other kinds of relationships, relationships between parents and children are distinguished by a power difference which could be used to the disadvantage of the child. There is always the danger that, given the differences in the sexual wishes of adults and children, the limits and wishes of the child might not be respected. Such dangers, however, are not adequate justification for an undifferentiated condemnation of all paedophile relationships.


Editor's Note:

Marina Knopf is a psychologist working with the Hamburg Family Planning Center. This study was originally published as: "Sexuelle Kontakte zwischen Fratien und Kindern. Ueberlegungen zu einem nicht realisierbaren Forschurgsprojekt." It appeared in
Zeitschrift far Sexualforschung, 6 (1993), pp. 23-3 5. Our thanks to the publisher for permission to publish this translation.

Translated from the German by Hubert Kennedy.



Notes:

1. J.L, Mathis, Clear Thinking about Sexual Deviations: A New Look at an Old Problem (Chicago: Nelson-Holt, 1972), p. 54.
2. M. Baurmann, Sexualitdt, Gewalt und psychische Folgen. Eine- Langsschttutenterstichting bei Opfem sexueller Gewalt und sextieller Nortnverletziit~g anhand von angezeigten Sexualkontakten (Wiesbaden: Bundeskriminalamt, 1983); Committee on Sexual Offences: Sexual Offences against Children. Report of the Committee on Sexual Offences against Children and Youth (Ottawa: Minister of Supply and Services, Canada, 1984); M. DeYoung The Sexual Victimization of Children Oefferson (N.E.), London: McForland, 1982); D. Finkelhor and D. Russell, "Women as Perpetrators: Review of the Evidence," in D. Finkelhor (ed.), Child Sexual Abuse: New Theory and Research (New York: Free Press, 1984); G. Kercher and M. McShane, "Characterizing Child Sexual Abuse on the Basis of a MultiAgency Sample," in Victimology 9/1984, pp. 364-382; H. Niemann, Unzuch mit Kindern. Eine kritninolegische Untersuchung unter Venvendung Hambuger Cerichtsaktert aus den jahren 1965 und 1967 (G6ttingen: Schwartz, 1974).
3. J. Marvasti, 9ncestuous Mothers," in Americanjournal of Forensic Psychiatry 7/1986, pp. 63-69; L.M. McCarthy, "Mother-Child Incest: Characteristics of the Offencler," in Child Wefflare 65/1986, pp. 4-47-458.
4. Theo Sandfort, 'The Sexual Experiences of Children, Part l," in Paidika 3:1 (1993) pp. 21-56; Theo Sandfort, 'The Sexual Experiences of Children, Part II," in Paidika 3:2 (1994), pp. 59-69.
5. "There Can Be No Emancipation of Women Without the Emancipation of Children: The Kanalratten Manifesto," in Paidika 2:4 (Winter 1992), pp 92-93.
6. The Kanalratten Manifesto, 'There Can Be no Emancipation of Women Without the Emancipation of Children" in Paidika 2:4 (Winter 1992), p. 92. The unusual lack of capitalization occurs in die original.
7. Finkelhor and Russell, op. cit.; A.N. Groth and H.J. Birnbaum, "Adult Sexual Orientation and Attraction to Underage Persons", in Archives of Sexual Behavior 7/1978, pp. 175-181.; M. Hirsch, Realer Inzest. Psychodynamik des sexuellen Kindernu/3brauchs in der Familie (Berlin: Springer, 1987).
8. G. Schmidt, Dasgroffle Der Die Das. Ober das Sextielle. Oberarb. u. erwiet. Neuausg. (Hamburg: RowohIt, 1988).
9. C.M. Allen, "Women as Perpetrators of Child Sexual Abuse: Recognition Barriers," in A.L. Horton et a]. (eds.), The Incest Perpetrator: A Family Member No One Wants to Treat (Newbury Park: Sage, 1990).
10. 1. Bergman, Mein Leben (Berlin: Volk und Welt, 1989), pp. 12-13.
11. S. Marcus, 'My Secret Life," in Walter: Viktorianische Ausschweifungen (N6rdlingen: Gemo, 1986). There are innumerable modem reprints of My Secret Life, the most complete edition being published by Grove Press, New York. The first edition was published anonymously circa 1885.
12. P_ von Krafft-Ebing, Psychopathia sexualis (Munchen: Matthes and Scitz, 14th edition, 1984), p. 414.
13. S. Ferenczi, "Sprachverwirrung zwischen den Erwachsenen und dem Kind (Die Sprache der Z~rtlichkeit und der Leidenschaft)," in Ders.: Schriften zur Psychoanalyse Bd. 11 (Frankfurt am Mem: Fischer, 1972; first published 1932).
14. Baurmann, op. cit.; Committee on Sexual Offences, op. cit.; DeYoung, op. cit; E. Fikentscher, H. Hindere, K. Liebrier, and E. Rennert, "Sexualstraftaten an Kindern und jugendlichen unter Bedicksichtigung latenter KriminalitSt," in Kriminalistik und forensische Wissenschaft 39/1978, pp. 67-82; D. Finkelhor, "What's Wrong with Sex Between Adults and Children? Ethics and the Problem ofSexual Abuse," in Americanjournal of Orthopsychiatry 49/1979, pp. 692697; Finkelhor and Russell, op. cit.; Kercher and McShane, op. cit; D. Russell, Sexual Exploitation: Rape, Child Sexual Abuse and Workplace Harassment (Beverly Hills: Sage, 1984).
15. S.R. Condy, Parameters of Heterosexual Molestation of Boys (Dissertation, Frenso: California School of Professional Psychology, 1985); S.R. Condy, D.I. Ternpler, R. Brown, and L. Veaco, 'Tarameters of Sexual Contact of Boys with Women," in Archives of Sexual Behavior 16/1987, pp. 379-395.
16. Condy et al., op. cit., p. 390.
17. D. Finkelhor, L.M. Williams, and N. Burns, Nursery Crimes: Sexual Abuse in Day Care (Newbury Park: Sage, 1988).
18. G. Brandenburg, Die Kinderschandt4ngskriminalitdt im Laridgerichtsbezirk Bochum in denjaren 1933 bis 1950 (Law Dissertation, Bonn, 1953), p.34.
19. W. Kiefl and S. Lamnack, Soziologie des Opfers (Mfinchen: Fink, 1986), p. 90.
20. R. Mathews, Female Sex Offenders: Notesfrom a Workshop Presented to the Third National Adolescent Perpetration Network Meeting (Keystone, Colorado, 1987); R. Mathews, J.K. Mathews, and K. Peltz, Female Sexual Offenders: An Exploratory Study (Unpublished Ms., 1988).
21. "Wenn M0tter zu sehr licben," Der Spiegel, nr. 33/1991.
22. E. Trube-Becker, "Das miBbrauchte Kind. Die Rechtsmedizin zwischen familiSren und ijffentlichen Interessen," in Sexualmed 13/1984, p. 257.
23. K. Rutschky, "Wic Probleme gemacht werden. Zur Ideologic des sexuelen MiBbrachs und der MiBhandlung von Kindern," in Die Zeit, nr. 47 (16 November 1990), p. 70.
24. E. Schorsch, "Kinderliebe. Ver~nderungen der gesellschafflichen Bewertung pSdosexueller Kontakte," in Mschr. Krim. Strafrechtsref 7211989, p. 146.
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There Can be no Emancipation of Women Without the Emancipation of Children
The Kanalratten Manifesto
[The following originally appeared in Paidika Issue 8, Amsterdam, 1992, pp. 90-93]


At the end of the l980s, the kanalratten (Canal Rats) formed an anarchist women's and children's commune in Berlin that agitated for the rights of children. The kanalratten were part of a larger network of “liberated zones” in West Germany, the Indianer-communes, the largest of which still exists in Nürnberg.

For the kanalratten, the unequal power relationships within the family and the dependency of children are the cause of social oppression. They advocate the right of children to engage freely in sexual relations, including those with adults. During the 1987 “Lesbenwoche” (Lesbian Week) in Berlin, the kanalratten sought a confrontation with the women who ran the Wildwasser [translation: Wild Water] refuge for girls. They accused Wildwasser of itself adopting a “paternalistic” attitude toward the girls and denying them their right to freely choose to have a relationship with an adult. According to the kanalratten, again the refuge only served to prepare the girls to live in families, and in this manner perpetuated their oppression.

For their part, in a response in the paper Blattgold [translation: Gold Page] (April and November, 1989), the women who organized the Lesbenwoche accused the kanalratten of refusing to see that equal relationships between children and adults are impossible, and suggested that the kanalratten were seeking only to indulge their own perverse lusts. They also excluded the kanalratten from any further participation in the Lesbenwoche activities.

The text which follows is a very strongly worded political manifesto from the kanalratten, reprinted in the Autonomer Frauenkalender 1989 [translation: Autonomous-Women 1989 Calendar]. They set out their views regarding children, sexuality and patriarchy. Although it is not subtle, it is one of the few expressions of a feminist women's group regarding the right of children to sexuality.

The original German text does not capitalize initial letters of sentences or proper names. We have kept to this style in the translation.



The Manifesto

we define female paedophilia as love between girls and adult women which is voluntary and includes sexual satisfaction; it is not a form of domination over other people since it is a form of life in which we have no need to dominate or possess children.

we wish to live without power over children and without the lifeless sexuality of adults. adult sexuality means the destruction of life and the environment. the destruction of the environment precedes the destruction of child sexuality. relationships with children other than those in the permitted categories of family, upbringing, home, and education are either not allowed or criminalized. any attempt to break out of this machine of death is prevented, we consider contacts which involve pressure, coercion, extortion, or prohibition to be incidences of violence rather than paedophilia. those who claim that paedophilia consists of abuse, rape, and sadistic force are furthering the fascist discrimination of paedophile love, for us, however, it is fascist to imprison children in families so that no other kinds of relationships are possible. paedophilia is our only means of preventing motherhood from being the only permitted form of living together with children, we attack the rapist father, but in no way allow ourselves to be forced into a motherly power relationship/dependency. we demand that children be given rights rather than protection, so that they can escape from families which they do not like or where they are mistreated.

the emancipation of women is not possible without the emancipation of children and childhood. a satisfying sexuality cannot be achieved without discussing the forbidden/suppressed topics of lesbian and child sexuality, without abolishing the divisions between body zones, sexuality and tenderness, sexual and non-sexual areas, age differences, and work. they try to separate every girl and woman from her sexuality so that they can later only function as sperm receptacles and mothers.

girls are destroyed by adults so that their resistance is broken and they let themselves be treated as victims and protected. they must put up with everything until they give in and are no longer able to resist the macho state, they then pass on this inability to other girls, rather than joining with them to offer resistance.

abused children are divided into categories: a great fuss is made over those who can be reintegrated into society, but children who resist even the most obnoxious social workers or unwarranted meddling in their private lives receive no support. they are put out on the street, get involved with drugs, prostitution, attempt suicide, or they wind up rather quickly in homes, the child psychiatry circuit, or they are again destroyed by families, even voluntary relationships end up in court or under the control of the child-protection agencies, who then forbid all contact, put children into psychotherapy, or place them in homes, psychiatric institutions, and prisons. children are forced to live together with adults in stifling relationships where no sexuality is allowed.

none of this is considered abuse. when things turn out otherwise this lie becomes visible and there is talk of manipulation, the creation of dependency, power, etc., without questioning the nature of the relationships in which the adults themselves are trapped.

almost all women who have tender and sexual feelings for children are afraid to pursue their wishes and needs and to respond to those of children, because these relationships are legally prosecuted and their social therapeutic nature is destroyed. the current campaigns which are supposedly directed against “sexual abuse” underscore the tightening of conventional morality, the suppression of our sexuality and the control of children. by being placed in solitary confinement a girl is prevented from having experiences, trying things out for herself to find out what she likes and does not like, instead she is burdened with completely alien desires, all of this supposedly to protect her.

they know that children can become sexually excited, but they forbid sexual gratification. no opposition to families, schools, homes, and the whole moral world remains; rather their influence is becoming ever more widespread. special courses for teachers, training programs to teach kindergarten children to say “no” and other such devices to protect children are contrivances to help and protect adults and the state, because they do not allow children to say yes. they are the complement to or the substitute for male violence, we are the victims when the “wildwasser” women,1 the emma journalists2 and other campaigners make no distinction between relationships based on mutual consent and relationships based on force. but they force us to live according to their ideas which they think are suitable for our modern times. we do not want to give any state money to the “wildwassers” nor do we want to help the pedagogues to control us, but we do want to live with children.

the discussion will be continued.

kanalratten, berlin, 1989

Translated from German by Eric Wulfert.


NOTES
  1. Wildwasser is a shelter for “sexually abused” children.
  2. “Emma” is a German feminist magazine.


Es girt keine befreiung der frauen ohne befreiung der kinder.

Weibliche predofille heißt für uns liebe zwischen mädchen und sexulle befriedigung miteinschileßt, keine herschaft über andrere menschen ist und ne lebensform, in beherrschen oder zu besitzen.

Wir wollen leben ohne macht über kinder und ohne tote erwachsenensexualität. Erwachsenensexualität heißt zerstörung der umwelt. Der zerstörung von lebendigkelt und umwelt geht die zerstörung der kindersexualität vorrus. Beziehungen mit kindern, die nicht in eine der erlaubten familien- schul- heim- und erziehungsschubladen passen, werden gar nicht erst zugelassen, bzw, kriminalislert. Jedes ausbrechen aus dieser todesmaschine wird verhindert. Für uns sind beziehungen, die mit druck, nötigung, erpreßung und entmuendigung ablaufen, nicht pedofille, sodern gewalt. Wer mißhandluingen, vergewaltigung und sadistisch gewalt als pedofilie bezelchnet, fördert die faschistische diskriminietung pedofiles liebe. Ebenso ist es für uns faschistisch kinder in familien einzusperren, so daß keine anderen bezlehungen für sie mehr möglich sind sein sollen pedofilie ist die einzige moeglichkelt, sich gegen muetterlichkelt, die asußchließlich zugelaßene form fürs zusammenleben mit kindern zu wehren. Wir griefen die vergewaltigerväter in den familien an, wollen uns aber deshalb schon gar nicht in ein mütterliches gewaltverhaeltnis/abhangigkelt reinpreßen laßen. Wir forden daß kinder rechte bekommen sollen statt schutz, darnit sie aus familien flüsten können, wenn sie dort night gefällt. Befriung von frauen ist nicht ohne befrieung von kindern und kindheit möglich. Befriedigende sexualität kann night erreicht werden ohne auseinandersetung mit der verbotenen/verdrängten (lesbischen und) kindersexualität, ohne die trennunger auf zuheben von sexualität und zaertlichkeit, von sexuellen und nichtsexuellen berzichen, altersunter und arbeit. Sie versuchen, jedes mädchen, jede frau von ihrer sexualität abzutrennen, so daß sie später nur noch als sänenempfaengerin und gebärerin funktioniert.

Mädchen werden von erwaxenen kaputtgernacht, solange bis sie sich als opfer behandein und schützen laßen, bis ihr widerstand gebrochen ist. Sie sollen sich alles gefallen laßen, bis sie resignieren und unfähig sind, sich gegen mackerstaat zu wehren. Diese unfehigkeit geben sie dann später an andere madchen weiter, statt mit ihnen zusammen widerstand zu leben.

Mißandelte kinder werden eingetilt: um die integrierbaren wird sich gerißen, kinder, diesich wehren, auch gegan die widerlichste sozialarbelter/innenschleimerel, kriegen keine unterstützung. Sie werden auf die straße getrieben, in die droge, auf den strich, in den selbstmord oder landen ziemlich schnell in heimen, in der kinderpsychiatrie oder werden erneut. In den familien kleingermacht auch freiwillige beziehungen enden vor gericht und jugendamt, mit kontaktverbot und psychotherapie, in helmen, psychiatrien und knästen. Kinder werdengezwungen mit erwaxenen zusammenzuleben, wo keine sexualität stattfinden darf.

Das steht nicht als mißhandlung zur diskußion. Wenns anders läuft, wird plötzlich die verlogenhelt sichtbar, wird von manipulation, abhängigmachen, macht usw geredet, ohne die beziehungen zu hinterfragen, in denen die erwaxenen selbst stecken.

Frauen, die zärliche und sexuelle gefühle und beziehungen zu kindern wollen/kennen, haben fast alle angst, ihren wünschen und bedürfnißen nachzugenehen und auf die von mädchen einzugehen. Denn die beziehungen werden juristisch verfolgt und sozialtherapeutisch kaputt gemacht.

Die zur zeit laufenden kampagnen, die angeblich sind, interstützen die zuspitzung von maoral, unterdrückung unserer sexualität und kontrolle der kinder. Isoheftmäßig wirst du als mädchen daran gehindert, erfahrungen zu machen selbst auszuprobieren, was dir gefällt und was nicht und stattdeßen bekommst du völlig entfremdete bedürfniße aufgestülpt, und das alles mit der begründung, dich zu beschützen. Sie wißen von der sexuellen erregung von kindren und jugendlichen, aber verbieten ihre befriedigung. Familien, schulen, heime und die ganze dazugehörige moral werden "natürlich" nicht bekämpft, sondern sogar noch mehr ausgebaut. Spezialkurse für lehrerinnen neinsage trainings programme in kindergärten und andere derartige kinderschutzerfindungen sind hilfs undschutzeinrichtungen für die erwaxenen und den staat, weil sie die moeglichkeit ausschliessen auch "JA" zu sagen.

Sie zementieren männergewalt, denn sie sind deren verfeinerte ergänzung oder ersetzung. Wir sind betroffene, wenn von wildwaßer-damen, emmas und anderen kampagnentreiberinnen nicht zwischen einverstaendlichen und aufgezwungenen beziehungen unterschieden wird, sondern danach, wie wir nach ihren vorstellungen zu leben haben und nach unserern alter. Wir wollen nicht staatsknete-beschafferinnen für die wildwaßers sein und nicht pädagiginnen helfen ons zu verwalten, sondern mit lindern leben.

Die auseinandersetzung geht weiter.

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The Domain of the Wandervogel Girls: Pedagogical Eros and the Utopia of a Holy Island
Marion E.P. de Ras


The Wandervogel youth movement, originally established by boys and young men, had as early as 1905 to reckon with the formation of the first girl's groups. Certainly, after 1911, their presence could no longer be ignored. That year, two hundred enthusiastic girls, decked out in brightly colored clothing, had shown up for a walking tour of Berlin. At first, opposition to their growing participation came less from parents, leaders, and teachers, than from the boys themselves. They considered the girls' participation as an "invasion," labelled the young women who acted as leaders of the girls' groups as "nuns" or "aunties," and labelled those girls who wished to hike along with them as "unfeminine."

The girls themselves had little or nothing to say in response until about 1918. By then, many of the boys, and with them the most important figures in the leadership, had gone off to the front in the First World War, and the girls had de facto inherited the Wandervogel movement. One consequence was that they underwent an "awakening." It set them thinking about what they themselves, as girls, wanted from the movement. Pronouncements such as this began to appear:
And girls! Do you not already feel that pure feminine domain? We must once again become conscious of that pure and bright spring welling up within. We must seek this feminine realm and her holy oracle. Deep within us, it is she who binds us with our sisters. Only through her can we have love for one another. Here you have the essence of our bond: finding anew that which is female within yourself through love of one another. Do you understand now why we can admit no boys to our feminine realm?1
Roughly between 1918 and 1928, the female branch of the German youth movement was dominated by the ideals of "women's culture," of a return to nature and the physical. These elements fused together into a specific image of Eros; they formed the foundation for an erotic utopian vision of a community of girls and women. This erotic utopia was described in many ways, as a "spiritual experience," a "quest for the source," or a "realm." It was expressed still more strongly as the "island," or sometimes even the "holy island." All these terms had the same referent: a domain that could not really be named nor rationally comprehended, yet which could be "felt and "experienced." It was mystical and eternal, rooted in the primeval, and belonged exclusively to women and girls. It was the secret of womanhood, the seed at the center of the feminine. The driving force in finding and cultivating this seed was pedagogical Eros. Writers credited pedagogical Eros with being the source of creativity. This Eros was also the preeminent bonding force in the community of girls and women.3 Eros between women and girls was seen as the catalyst for the process of becoming a woman.4 A clear distinction was made between Eros and sexuality. Whereas Eros represented order, art, and culture, sexuality was the realm of chaos and uncontrolled passion.

This pedagogical theory, in which Eros would come to take such an important place, was first expounded during the origin and flowering of the great youth movement at the beginning of this century. The theories about adolescence and puberty went hand in hand with the definition of youth as youth, and with the practices and social organizations that followed from this. Medical science with its determinist perspective of the various physical phases in the process of becoming a mature adult, was developing rapidly. However, this clinical perspective was too narrow for the humanistic psychology and pedagogy which were also arising. The concept of pedagogical Eros, as a component of humanistic pedagogy and developmental psychology, dominated enlightened circles. It also influenced the education reform movement with its alternative educational systems in the German Landschulheime. Eduard Spranger, a phenomenological, child-centered pedagogical theorist, and Charlotte Buhler belonged to the circles in contact with the youth movement. These youth psychologists set out to analyze the Infatuation (Schwarm) that girls may experience for someone older, generally an older follow student, a woman teacher, or other female, They did, however, also think that this platonic Eros could flower between an adult male and a girl.

At the beginning of the 1920s, Charlotte Buhler, a well known Viennese youth psychologist, wrote in her book, Das Seelenleben desjugendlichen, in the chapter "Fuhrer und Schwarm":
The infatuations (Schwarmen) which I have discussed here are a developmental factor, and are as important ethically as they are psychologically. Only in the form in which we have described them do they become a fulfilling and rich experience. These infatuations can be found in cases of deep inner development, and they can become the most important factor in self-realization.5
Regarding the nature of this infatuation, for which she used the descriptions "Eros" and "erotic," she remarked that it was free of sexuality. Eros could, if properly directed, function as an enormous force in the acquisition of self-control, self-discovery, and self-sacrifice by young persons. In saying this, she labelled this Eros as the driving force in the adolescent's process of becoming an adult. It became the foundation for her view of love, desire, and sexuality. Second perhaps only to Eduard Spranger, she was one of the most important pedagogues to incorporate the theory of pedagogical Eros in developmental psychology. Moreover, she also developed a new vision of the role of Eros in pedagogy and the psychology of youth.

The discussion of Eros within pedagogy and psychology was not a disembodied idea about caring child-rearing methods which suddenly appeared from nowhere. At the beginning of the twentieth century, Eros and sexuality were the subject of debate, analysis, and praxis that were being played out in the sciences, in parliaments, and in lawmaking; in social movements and among middle-class liberals; and in artistic circles. The Sexual was one of the preoccupations of German science around the turn of the century. Medical science and the natural sciences (and the emerging psychoanalytic movement) emphasized human biology, from which character, actions, and future development could be inferred. People were examining themselves to discover the nature of mankind, as well as searching for the truth about their own nature and being. That which was chaotic and unknown about mankind had to be discovered, classified, set out in orderly fashion, and controlled. It was a time of measuring skulls, genetics, and eugenics. It was also an era of preoccupation with the healthy human body: with physical culture, sanitation, and hygiene. And it was a time of sexology and sexual definitions.

The body of thought regarding the female, pedagogical Eros, the return to nature, the physical, and the creation of a women's culture did not exist solely within the youth movement. These preoccupations had their roots in a number of intellectual and cultural currents which were specific to that time and place, such as the emerging developmental psychology and education reform movements; the medical and social concepts and praxis surrounding sexuality, homosexuality, and health; the influence of the middle-class women's movement, and political and social developments in the party system of the democratic Weimar Republic (though this last was rejected by most of the youth and girls' movement). To an important degree, this thought was characterized by the influential and widespread ideology summed up in the slogan Kultur statt Zivilisation (Culture over Civilization).

Paradoxically enough, it was this slogan that insisted that good (culture) and evil (civilization), the healthy and the unhealthy, the pure and the perverse, continually be set in opposition to each other. Paradoxically, because the slogan was intended to represent a pursuit of unity, including the unity of body, mind and soul; the unity of the individual and the community; the unity of womanhood and the girls' movement; and the oneness of women's Kultur.

Kultur
represented the indivisible, the whole, German history, and the German longing for a German empire. It was the traditional, the rural, the natural, and the pure. It was Eros as a classical ideal of contemplation of, empathy with, and love for the whole person. Zivilisation represented industrialization, hectic modem times, the mechanical, and the big city with its downtrodden, perverted, and unnatural individuals. It was scandalous Parisian fashion, the prostitute, the modem short-haired girl, the perverse, and the sexual. It was sexual lust as a selfish, genitally-centered animal passion, a part of the person rather than the whole person. Eros, on the other hand, represented the ideal of pure friendship and high culture; of aesthetics and the contemplation of persons, the innocence of nature, the world, and the cosmos, each as a whole; of the beauty of a body united with soul and mind; of ethical attitudes and conduct in relationships; of pleasure of the senses - providing of course that it was raised to the level of Apollonian order and art.

Countless elements were placed in opposition to each other in the ideology of "Culture over Civilization," including nature and culture, body and mind, Eros and Priapus. While Eros denoted the ideal of pure friendship and edifying culture, Priapus denoted sexuality, bodily lusts, and uncontrolled passion. Thus good was brought into direct opposition to evil.


Psychology and Pedagogical Eros

A clear line of demarcation was drawn between Eros and Priapus, that is, Eros and sexuality. This line was also to be found in those educational and psychological theories which were founded in part upon pedagogical Eros.

Eduard Spranger, who wrote his Psychologie desjugendalters in the early 1920s, dealt explicitly with pedagogical Eros.6 The book ran to numerous editions and had great influence in The Netherlands. Spranger believed that Eros stands at the point of intersection between aesthetics and ethics. Spranger's concept of Eros was based on Plato's definition of Eros as that love rooted in the contemplation of the whole, inner contemplation, the spiritual, the love of ideal form. For him, erotic Schwarmerei were the Apollonian light side, and Priapus the Dionysian dark side. With the expression of this theory, Spranger rejected modern scientific concepts of sexuality, namely that everything, even human identity itself, could ultimately be reduced to sexuality. According to him, Eros and sexuality had different roots. Eros belonged pre-eminently to youth, beauty, and desire. Therefore the basis of his pedagogy was not the analysis of the youth or the girl, but the Verstehen, the understanding, empathy, and sympathy towards adolescents one needed in order to understand them.

While Charlotte Buhler also worked with the concept of Eros and the practice of Verstehen, she dealt with them in a more clinical and empirical manner than Spranger. However, when it came to what she called the Seelenleben (soul-life) of the adolescent, she imputed great power to Eros. Moreover, she spoke from experience, because, as she said in an interview, she worked by choice with younger female assistants who were a little in love with her.7

Buhler's accomplishment was to expand the discussion of youth by explicitly concerning herself with girls. This was relatively new, considering that until then youth and adolescence had primarily been interpreted as a phase of life belonging to males only. Among other activities, she collected and analyzed girls' diaries.8 In these diaries, Infatuation was expressed in all its heat. In practically all cases these crushes were directed toward an older girl or an adult woman. Buhler saw this as a positive phase during adolescence. The girl's experiences of these crushes aroused powerful and previously unknown emotions. They were literally on fire. Expressions like Himmelhoch jauchzend zum Tode betrabt, Sehnsucht, Schwdrtnen, Melancholik, Erleben (from heavenly bliss to deadly depression, longing, infatuation, melancholy, and experience) were used. These were not experiences from childhood, but the elemental human emotions of passion, love, hate, approach, and rejection. According to Bahler, this experience of existential human processes would, providing it were properly guided, create a strong individual. This eroticism - which also, according to her, had nothing to do with sexuality - would ultimately lead to a healthy, heterosexual adulthood. The essence of the erotic relationship between master and pupil lay precisely in bringing the manhood of the boy and the womanhood of the girl to flower.

According to Buhler there were also detrimental sides to this Eros. It could, for instance, degenerate into Liebelei (love as a game), or more serious yet, into mass hysteria, such as still appears to happen at English boarding schools. Buhler cited Gertrude Baumer's lyrical description of her physical education teacher as an example of just such mass hysteria. Buhler, who maintained a life-long relationship with Helene Lange - both were well-known feminists in the middle-class women's movement - knew firsthand the force of pedagogical Eros:
When I spoke a moment ago about the cool relationships with male and female teachers, I left out of consideration one brilliant and unusual star which shone, not only in my firmament, but in the school heavens of many of my fellow schoolgirls: the physical education teacher. She awakened in many of us the experience of Infatuation, an emotion that I know not if any others than schoolgirls between the ages of thirteen and sixteen can comprehend. For three years she was the center of our being. Not an hour went by - literally - that you did not think of her; you never crossed the street without cherishing the silent hope of meeting her. The two hours of physical education each week, the only hours that you were in her presence, were quite simply the high point of existence. The most terrible expeditions were undertaken in order to find out where you might meet her, the strangest occurrences were invented in order to get something to do with her. If it froze, you went outside in a thin cotton gym suit just so that she would chase you in again; you threw the shuttlecock over the wall into the neighbor's yard, so that you could ask her if you could climb over to get it; you tore your clothing to shreds so as to be able to ask her to mend it. The whole school literally sank into nothingness, into an indifferent twilight, compared to this all-consuming interest.9
Buhler, however, rejected this form of Eros. For her, pedagogical Eros (the psychologically ideal Eros) had nothing to do with hysteria, or with mass epidemics of falling in love, even if she also found these expressions a normal part of the pubertal phase. Her point of departure was leadership, responsibility, and self-discipline in the interplay between an older and a younger partner, preferably of the same sex. The foundation of this interplay, which deserved to be taken seriously, lay in the relationship between two persons, through which selfhood and intimacy (the I and the Thou; Ich and Du) could flourish, and in which the self of the younger could grow in a relationship characterized by a chaste distance and longing. Buhler argued that in this relationship, womanhood and manhood could develop freely. Because she believed that the being of a man and manhood were different from the being of a woman and womanhood, she believed that Eros between boys and men was different from that between girls and women. In the interplay between boys and men, one could already see what were, according to her, the pre-eminently manly qualities such as self-awareness and the will to power, that later could lead to the ability to rule. Eros between women and girls displayed such typical feminine characteristics as devotion (Hingabe) and freely chosen obedience to the adult.


Pedagogical Eros in the Girls' Movement

Womanhood and the fostering of womanhood by Eros was also a topic of discussion within the girls' movement. It usually began with the idea that female nature had been buried in the garbage heap of civilization. Culture was the means of clearing away that rubbish, and the slogan, Kultur statt Zivilisation, was adopted without exception by all the girls' groups.

The Platonic notion that there might be an already existing, true source of womanhood which did not have to be created or shaped, did not influence these discussions. What excited the imagination within the movement was the idea that it was possible to create, or instill, the core of womanhood, another of the underlying notions of pedagogical eros. Who but the older female leaders would be more suited to the task of bringing the germ of womanhood in a young girl to a flowering maturity? Mature young women could teach young girls how to discover the source of their own womanhood.

The belief in this idea of fostering maturity by the older woman had the effect within the girls' circles of lessening the conflicts between old and young that characterized the boys' groups after the First World War. The boys' groups, even before the war, had already become polarized by arguments over the role of the older leaders and the inclusion of girls and Jewish boys. After the war these debates created schisms in the boys' movement, though this did not happen in the girls' groups. Whereas the boys wanted to be rid of their older leaders, the girls cherished them. Young women above 25 were much esteemed as leaders. They had a special place in this ideal feminine culture, this holy island on which womanhood could flower so wonderfully through mutual love and affection. It was they who could guide their younger friends to their proper identity as women.

The body of ideas surrounding the holy island (the germ of womanhood and pedagogical Eros) was sometimes problematic. The sometimes nasty discussion about the relationship between pedagogical Eros and homosexuality that rent the boys' movement was never as great within the girls'. At most, in the girls' movement there was some tension between the ideal of Eros and its practice, which surfaced in the discussions of how to realize this holy island. Marie Buchhold, who became the leader of a women's dance and gymnastics school in the agricultural settlement of Schwarzerden, reported that when she was 27, the girls' group in which she was then involved experienced a clear schism between the maternal and the "unfeminine." Maternal individuals were those who saw their leadership role as a spiritual motherhood, and later through marriage as actual motherhood. Unfeminine leaders were those who made mind, intellect, and physical culture the goal of their leadership, and not marriage, wedded bliss, and motherhood. Buchhold was one of the unfeminine. With her later life-partner Elisabeth Vogler, she established a true holy island where Eros could be given free rein. The elder pair of friends could cultivate in the girls and young women their new female identity. Schwarzerden was such a great success that it still exists today.

Another tension in the girls' movement was that between the erotic and the sexual. Although this was never publicly discussed by any of the girls' groups, it is clear in the descriptions of camping trips, especially in descriptions of being and sleeping together. Eros provided a reservoir for sexual desires and sexual acts. The veneration of the body, culture, and Eros created many opportunities for contemplating the body of a girlfriend in nude dancing or nude swimming, for touching her body in the countless gymnastic exercises that were conducted in the open air, or for snuggling up to her at the rituals by the campfire, on the hikes, and at the innumerable celebrations that took place in the encampments. As was written in one journal:
What did we care about the rocks we tripped over in the darkness, or the many ravines and crevices we might have fallen into? . . . Klara and I held tight to each other's hands, one in the other...
Can you understand how deeply we experienced the events of that night? That it appeared to us as a symbol of a time in which we really encountered one another and we alone? I believe that every girl has hidden deep within her a secret something she carries with her - not expressed, indeed hardly known - that allows her to find her way. Like a heavenly song or some half-forgotten, primeval melody, it beckons us onward. Only if we have complete inward calm, if we find peace within ourselves to listen to our soul, shall we hear it, at first softly and trembling. But wonderfully beautiful in purity and simplicity.10
Eros was the god of order, and control, an invitation to accompany someone on a life's journey. The girl's love, her being in love, must be transformed by the leader, the older or more mature friend, into creativity, culture - women's culture. What this women's culture was precisely, no one knew. Each group had its own ideas on the subject. What Eros was, no one knew either, and everyone had her own ideas about this as well. Whether it was sexuality, or lesbian sexuality, as we are now inclined to think, was not a question that overly occupied these girls. They certainly did not call it lesbianism, which was associated with the city, perversity, and Priapus.

There was one person who clearly understood his own interpretation of Eros (including pedagogical Eros) and sexuality. For the "erotomanic" (as he was labelled) Hans Buhler, the "infamous" chronicler of the Wandervogel movement, it was all crystal clear. His view is best seen in a description he gives of an event that took place shortly after the first World War. It is in the revised edition of his book Werke und Tage.11

He had hiked up a rugged mountain where a group of girls clad in hooded capes awaited him. They silently escorted him to a place where he would speak to the leaders of a colony of women and girls. According to him, these women and their followers had made their nest, in the wilds of nature, like "queen bees in a swarm." They had created an agricultural community and their own special dances. The outside world thought that the community was based on a love of nature, vegetarianism, dance, and the ideals of the Wandervogel movement, but as an insider he knew that the driving force was mutual love between females, that is, the holy island and pedagogical Eros. Interpreting this pedagogical Eros presented no problem at all for him.
On the slopes of a low German mountain range in the region of the great Hanseatic cities, the women had established themselves, as figures of express beauty and grace, or if not that, then certainly of impressive energy. They are surrounded and waited upon by girls who would spill their heart's blood for them, creating works and institutions which those around them who pluck the fruit of their labors little suspect are secretly ruled over by the goddess of lesbian love.12

Summary

One can say that Eros within the girls' circles was viewed as salvational. It played a role in the process of an individual becoming an adult. It fused women and girls into a community. It was expressly not the binding element between girls and boys - at least not in this phase of puberty and adolescence. It was the creative force by which the lost germ of womanhood could be discovered and nurtured into life.

Eros also contained two aspects which could be seen as mutual opposites. The ideal of Eros created a freer group space for those whose public and private lives were severely restricted. In the first half of the twentieth century, girls still had to clear away some of the obstacles which stood in the way of their being able to lead relatively free lives. The creation of a holy island -at least under certain circumstances and conditions - meant a revolution in the very middle class circles from which the girls were fleeing.

While the discussion of Eros was often liberating, the construction of a dichotomy between Eros and sexuality, (seen as two distinct, conflicting areas of the person) could be said to constrain Eros. This dichotomy, coupled with the emphasis on morality in the discussion of Eros, set them in opposition to one another. Eros had to be the controlling passion, a part of culture and our common heritage. In contrast, sexuality was seen as animal, as genital lust, as demonic and destructive, as chaotic and hedonistic.

The ideals of the girls' movement changed after 1928, The call for social and political involvement became steadily stronger. The right wing, nationalistic boys' groups recruited girls for their own girl sections, strictly segregated from the boys, but nonetheless under male supervision. The girls' groups which advocated the ideal of a community of girls and women slowly but surely crumbled away. There were no new disciples (Nachwuchs), and interest evaporated. Social interchange lost some of its aura, became more businesslike, and the politics ever more polarized. The somewhat naive idealism of the early days of the girls' movement was now criticized, and in place of separation on holy islands, people wanted to take part in social and political life. Somewhere in the midst of this, the ideal of Eros was buried. But the call for a unified realm, the call that is for a Reich, persisted. After 1933 it would take on a much more sinister tone than the playful ideal shared by the girls in the Weimar era.


Editors' Note:

Marion E.P. de Ras (1953) is a social scientist presently investigating the construction of "girlhood" in The Netherlands since 1600. She works under the auspices of the Royal Dutch Academy of Sciences.

Translated from Dutch by Words and Pictures.



Notes:
1. DerLandfahrer, Heft 10, GiMard, 1919, p. 9.
2. M.E.P. de Ras, "Die Heilige Insel," in: Jahrbuch des Archivs der deutschen jugendbewegung (Wizenhausen: StiftungJugendburg Ludwigstein, 1986), Bd 15/19841985, pp.87-108.
3. M.E.P. de Ras, Korper, Eros und weibliche Kultur. Mddchen im Wandervogel und in der Bundischen jugend 1900-1933 (Centaurus: Pfaffenweiler, 1988).
4. De Ras, 1984-5, op cit, p. 89.
5. C. Buhler, Das Seeleleben des Jugendlichen Uena: 1929) (1 st ed., 1921), p, 167.
6. E. Spranger, Psychologie des Jugendalters (Leipzig: 1929).
7. Jo van Ammers-Kuller, Twaalf interessante vrouwen (Arnsterdam: 1933).
8. C. Biffiler, "Jugendtagebuch und Lebenslauf, Zwei Miidehentagebiicher nut einer Einle-itung," in: Quellen und Studien zurjugendkunde (Jena: 1932).
9. Buhler 1929, op cit, p. 167.
10. Alt-Wandervogel Monatsschrift, Heft 8/9,1919.
11, H. Buhler, Werke und Tage, Geschichte eines Denkers (Munchen: 1953) (1st edition, 1918).
12. Ibid.
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Children's Sexual Customs, Marquesas Islands, 1940's

Marquesan children's sexuality - aboriginal Times

During his voyages of 1790-1792, Marchand observed that eight-year old girls were definitely not novices in sexual techniques. In 1813 the Russian explorer Kruzenshtern noted that a father brought a girl of 10 to 12 years old to his ship where she engaged in sexual intercourse with the sailors. Early reports concerned with the sexuality of children include that of Lisiankii who remarked in 1814 that some100 Marquesan females, "practised all the arts of lewd expression and gesture to get aboard…. Among them were some not more than ten years of age. These infants rivalled their mothers in wantonness of their motions and the arts of allurement." It seems likely that at the time of first European contact that Marquesan girls' enjoyed their first intercourse before or around ten years old (Suggs, 1966).


Marquesan childrens' sexuality - 1940's

Within weeks after birth, many female infants were begun on a cycle of medication, which prepared them for their role in adolescent and adult sex life. The medications administered were astringents, which were believed to possess cleaning qualities. They were intended, according to Suggs' informants, to shrink the mucus membrane lining of the vaginal canal and generally aid in increasing muscle tone. They were also believed to inhibit the production of lubricatory fluids in the vaginal canal and suppress vaginal malodorousness. The results of these medications - decrease in size of vagina, increased muscle tone, inhibition of mucus production and suppression of malodorousness were of major importance as qualifications for a sexual partner. The use of astringents raised Marquesan women far above the level of either Tahitians or Whites who were thought to have over large, malodorous genitalia.

The medicines included extracts from Antidesma sp., Staphylaea sp., young coco nuts - Coco nucifera, Achyrathes aspera, Szygium jambos, Aleurites trilobita and Thespesnia populines. Adults have been known to use the medication but they may have dangerous side effects such as extreme swelling of the mucus lining of the vagina. Suggs found that Antidesma sp. Was the most popular of these medicines. The leaves were pounded with water and strained through a cloth. The mother or grandmother applied one or two drops daily in the vagina after the child has been bathed, but medication began only after the child could crawl. The medication, once begun was continued up to age of menstruation or a little before. Another medicine, the young coco nut was crushed on a stone and squeezed for juice, which was administered three times daily in one or two drops from the time the infant crawled until she reached about one-year-old.

Another mark of beauty in women was a flat symphysis pubis. To this end, mothers and grandmothers massaged girls' mons veneris during infancy and girlhood. This massage was accompanied by stretching of the labaie to elongate them. The girl's mother stretched the labaie during the daily bath. She grabbed the child by the ankles, held her legs held apart and manipulated the labaie with her lips. For male infants, the foreskin was pulled back and cleaned at bathing.

Until the child was 7 or 8 years old he or she slept beside their parents. Most adults preferred to believe that their children were asleep when they had sexual intercourse, but they also recall some of the acts they witnessed as children. One result was that Marquesan children were very sexually sophisticated at an early age, and that older children who baby-sat taught sexual practices to younger ones.

Children formed loose play and work groups in early childhood. The groups consisted of children of approximately the same age and sex. Groups of children often functioned in direct response to adult commands. The groups fluctuated in size and attachments formed in the groups, children formed life-long friendships. Girls' groups often collected shellfish and offered a certain amount of protection against advances made by older males, especially as girls' puberty approached. Even when they would have been willing partners, girls had a hard time detaching themselves from such groups and feared that the story would be spread to the village.

Girls had a special relationship with their grandmother, who most often applied the vaginal astringent and instructed her granddaughter on the techniques of intercourse. Marquesans were extremely sensitive to body odor and dirt and body cleanliness was of major importance. Marquesans bathed frequentlyand girls were taught to bath many times a day. Children learned early on to apply coconut oil scented with flowers and sandalwood oil as perfume. Boys were taught to pay scrupulous attention to cleaning beneath their foreskin.

Adults sometimes threatened very young boys who were behaving badly by brandishing one of the ever-present butcher knives and gesturing towards the boy's penis saying, "I'm going to hack your penis." This was quite effective. Usually the boy, nearly in tears would grab his penis, bend over it, and back away. Masturbation amongst males began at about age three. Older boys taught younger ones to use saliva to moisten their penis and their hand. Boys from the ages of six gathered surreptitiously in the bush for masturbation contests. The winner was the boy who ejaculated first. Mutual masturbation also occurred in these gatherings. Little is known about girls' masturbation although one of Suggs' informants witnessed a very young girl in Convent School digitally masturbate din the mornings, and other reports suggest that it was as frequent as boys' masturbation.

Heterosexual group sexual activities begin at about age seven. Boys and girls played "mother and father" and often rubbed their genitals together. The girl either stood against a tree or laid supine on the ground with her legs spread apart, while the boy assumed the normal position for coitus on top of her. Children carried out the activity with much laughter in isolated areas where adults could not be likely to surprise the gathering. Children didn't like to be caught by adults, but the error was not in the act itself, but getting caught.

Girls generally began their heterosexual relations earlier than boys. Most girls began sexual relations at about age 11 0r 12 and Suggs thought it noteworthy that often girls had their first child before their first menstruation. A girl's first intercourse was usually with an adult male, usually in a chance situation where the girl was surprised alone in the brush or while bathing. Defloration usually occurred before first intercourse, a result of strenuous work, athletic play, bareback horse-riding and masturbation with instruments.

At about ages 12 to 14 circumcision marked the boys' passage to puberty and the community considered it the gateway to intercourse. The operation consisted of a longitudinal incision through the foreskin of the upper part of the glans penis. A group of boys gathered together in a central area of the village. A circumcision specialist stretched the boys' foreskin tightly over a splint of bamboo and cut an incision with a knife. In the aboriginal past, the specialist made the cut with a bamboo knife. No attempt was made to anesthetize the locale of the incision. After the circumcision, boys applied the juice of the candle-nut tree Aleurites trilobita daily after bathing and carefully cleaned the wound he then placed his penis placed against a sun heated stream boulder until it dried. No case of infection has ever been reported.

Boys carefully buried the slip of bamboo where women would walk over it, and one of Suggs' informants reported that the best place to bury the bamboo was in the courtyard of the church, where all the girls congregated several times a week. One churchyard was reported to have had bamboo slips from several generations of Marquesan males buried in its courtyard. A boy knew when a girl had been standing over the bamboo because an erection quickly followed the mere sight of the girl.

Circumcised males made nocturnal visits to girls as the girls approached puberty. Parents sometimes responded by forcing the girls to sleep in inaccessible corners of the house where younger children were close by, forbidding trips to the latrine alone, closing all the windows and doors tightly and tying a noisy dog around the house. But, under certain circumstances, parents would openly condone sexual relationships for young girls, the motivation being economic.


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Kruzenshtern, Ivan Fedorovich, 1973 (1813). Voyage around the world in the years 1803, 1804, 1805, & 1806, by order of His Imperial Majesty Alexander the First, on board the ships Nadeshda and Neva, under the command of Captain A. J. Von Krusenstern, of the Imperial Navy. Translated from the original German by Richard Belgrave Hoppner. [Facsimile ed.] London, John Murray, 1813. Tenri, Japan, Tenri University Press, 1973.

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