What is everyone's stance on Epstein?

[Anonymous_Lover]

A gift that keeps on giving. The memeification of Epstein has led to young people unironically supporting him. I even saw a poll that said 17% of Americans had a positive opinion of Jeffrey Epstein. We should basically hold him up as a hero. So its illegal to have sex as a Jewish man? Smells like anti-semitism to me

[popman]

He was a horrible man who hurt many people, I have nothing good to say about him.

[DANAT4T]

Yeah as I said before it is a nonsense story that is boring asf. It is the same with the grooming gangs scandal. I wouldn't worry about either of them.

[Bluebird97]

This may be controversial, but I think the law was probably the biggest reason those girls where hurt. If pedophilia was accepted or atleast legal. These old powerful people wouldn't have to go to shady people like epstien. If think we should adopt a law something like, to have sex with a 13+ girl you need her to go to some official office and sign a letter of consent. Anything below you also need a parents signature. Make it legal just hard to do. But I'm curious what others think about this.

[Jim Burton]

This may be controversial, but I think the law was probably the biggest reason those girls where hurt. If pedophilia was accepted or atleast legal. These old powerful people wouldn't have to go to shady people like epstien. If think we should adopt a law something like, to have sex with a 13+ girl you need her to go to some official office and sign a letter of consent. Anything below you also need a parents signature. Make it legal just hard to do. But I'm curious what others think about this.

This is probably more appropriate for the Consent Discourse forum - we can move parts of the thread if it develops.

[DANAT4T]

Well, he's not here to defend himself and many of the women were paid sex workers in their 20s at the time but are being portrayed as innocent children at the time. Paid adult sex workers now seeking compensation because, well, why not, he's just paying twice now.

Was he a nice man? I don't know, I have heard people speaking out to defend him, people who knew him, saying he was a very kind and friendly man with a large sexual appetite and an approach to business where he liked to entertain to help do business deals. That does happen, there are plenty of highly paid sex workers today getting paid by rich and powerful men. They're hardly victims, they're making a lot of money and are very shrewd business woman. Get paid $10,000 for one weekend or work a dead end job for $2,000 per month? Younger women do earn more, it's the same in porn, and there will be women under the age of 18 using their sex appeal to earn big money and live a glamarous lifestyle. It's easy for puritan men to tut and say they're corrupt or victims but that's very stretching the truth. I know someone who worked in a store and she was approached by a man who offered her a load of money to come away on a boat for a weekend, with wealthy businessmen. She's earn a lot for that weekend, would have a lot of fun and meet some very wealthy and powerful men. She actually considered it but said no because she was engaged and she felt it was too unusual. Apparently he explained that they don't use sex workers because the men who would be there prefer more natural women who are there out of choice, not professionals. She was a very attractive girl, she would have been in her early 20s at the time and she has said she sometimes regrets not going since she broke up with her fiance soon after and has been struggling financially ever since.

I think he was most likely a rich and powerful men who paid sex workers or like with my friends story, well paid non-professionals to attend parties and events. They would have paid well and the girls would have gone there through choice. Some under 18s were caught up in it and then because of some of the powerful people who attended, it turned political and became this strange thing we're seeing today where all the women who attended were victims and it was a pedo ring on a pedo island. That's almost certainly all nonsense and it's almost certainly no different to happens today in similar things all over the world today, on yachts and islands. If my friend had gone and earned a lot of money then years later she was told she could say she was a victim and make hundreds of thousands of dollars, I wouldn't be surprised if she agreed and took the money, I mean he's dead anyway so why not?

Very interesting. The situation you described is very similar to something I saw on the Tom O'Carroll website. I'm not asking anything. Just saying. That's all.