the FBI and antifa both mislabel free speech as violence

[zarkle]

The clickbait title is the FBI and Antifa both oppose free expression because they think its violent - and its true - but know the nuance. First of all the FBI and Antifa are radically different. One is a Federal US Government agency that deals with interstate and federal crime investigations and prosecutions and the other is a decentralized group of anarcho communist, demsocs, progressives and marxist that share a common interest in left wing values. However outside of violence there is one other interesting thing they share in common. Both believe free speech/expression is violence.

Antifa is known for preventing conservatives libertarians and centrist from giving speeches on college campuses such as in the case of Yaron Brooke, Sargon of Akkad Milo and more. On college campuses they will preemptively plan a disruption scene when its time for a center right or beyond speaker. Antifa makes the case that "would you really die fighting for what someone has to say if that person would kill you?" and make the case that unlimited hate speech leads to violence. They often cite a nazi bar principle how if center of right folks aren't kicked out of organizations they will become dominated by """FASCIST""". And their principle of fascism is anyone who slightly disagrees with them on transgender politics. The core principle is that freedom of speech for people they disagree is just code name for violence against vulnerable racial and sexual minorities. Remember that.

Now moving on to the FBI's similarities. In 2012 their CP investigation division got rebranded as VCAC (Violent crimes agent children) acronym with the 2012 FBI making an official statement in 2012 that child porn is a violent crime. Even though federally under law it is not considered that. At least not yet. They make that personal declaration on that, and Kash Patel FBI director of today still stands by it calling CSAM posession alone a violent crime here.
source:
https://x.com/FBIDirectorKash/status/20 ... 6555974054

"President Trump’s law enforcement team led by this FBI is conducting the most aggressive violent crimes against children takedowns in United States history - and we’re not slowing down. "

Kash Patel bragged about the Arizona US Atttorney's deemed success - giving some of the longest sentences in modern US history to internet only CSAM defendants totaling 10,000 years for 50 individuals who lacked contact offenses without federal early release eligibility. This goes WAY BEYOND SENTENCES FOR VIOLENT RAPE IN LOCAL STATES. and Remember ""CSAM""" is a weasel word that ranges from anything from leotard/swimwear photos of kids to brutal rape of them. Where only the latter is mentioned in police reports, and remember each image file of non nude non sexually posing and non explicit kids can be 5-20 years each - and federal law and some states are even harsher.

My point is Patel labeling CP a violent crime is a HUGE FUCKING STUPID ASS MISTAKE. Its impossible to logically justify that statement, no matter how strong you play devil's advocate with that idea it won't work. That is inexcusable! Of course there is a illegal child rape media economy on dark net but its peanuts compared to drugs and most of it is recycled horror media from the 2000s, rarely newly produced.

Sure Patel could accurately say

a subset of CSAM like paying for 764 like torture network content is a violent crime
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/764_(organization)

That would be extremely accurate. and I'd agree there - but no, that is not what he professes alone. He implied ALL sharing of image files of kids in erotic ways is exclusively a violent crime and pushes a violent economy. Thus he believes sharing or viewing pictures of kids in bikinis is violence, that puts him in the same boat as Antifa for saying free expression is violence. But perhaps worse because Antifa does not kick down people's doors and arrest them for pictures of kids in swimwear and lock them in cages for life.

- So understand my point -

1) Antifa believes that free speech they don't like leads to violence
2) The FBI and Kash Patel believes image/video files of kids in swimwear and leotards they don't like leads to violence

Rather its violent totalitarian presenting government agents banning swimwear clothing media
Or college students jumping on diner tables with red and black flags demanding censorship of a libertarian speaker.

Both claim they are doing this in self defense/greater good to combat violence and these lunatics believe their own bullshit. People who download non hardcore CP can face much more time in US prison then violent rapist in theory - and sometimes in practice. The names of these government agencies don't even reflect the reality of the crime like 92% of CP being self generated https://www.iwf.org.uk/annual-report-2023/

The rest of the video linked from the X post features propaganda on how the US Government is out to get """child predators""" who may be just looking at pictures of kids in swimwear or twerking/dancing in the privacy of their own home and do the worst imaginable to them - in the tweet Patel said he will do everything in his power to protect America's children from us - the deemed evil outgroup.It looks to me like Kash Patel is trying to blur the line between violent 764 terrorist networks and other groups of people who look at illegal pictures of minors for whatever reason. What's the point of a legal gradiance if child torture crimes and bikini pics are punished exactly the same with life sentences?

The X.com video released by the FBI on X is dripping with propaganda to make the user think all CSAM is tied to violence and abduction. Far from the reality of that being an extreme exception. It is flaring with child protection instincts and us vs them thinkng about the deemed righteous battling the outgroup.

The video Patel posted shows visual dramatizations of children tied up, in fear, and rescues of kids running back to their parents arms, raid scenes and prison dramatization. It gives the viewer the impression of extremely tough on crime mentality against pure evil monsters that hardly count as human.

As we know neuroscience shows Oxytocin contributes to dehumanization as it causes humans to feel extreme compassion and cuddly love for the ingroup and nothing but contempt for hated outgroups.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UggdBeC5Qs

Sound familar?

For a normal person watching Patel's video they would assume that pedophiles are all sadist and directly tied to sexual violence and abductions. Any normie watching this video will assume the FBI is rescuing kids from violent crimes 24/7 and applaud the 40,000 victim match claims. not knowing that legally speaking identifying can mean SO MUCH MOREE. the FBI can identify photos from a junior idol/east European child model sets, swimwear shopping catalogs or kids twerking on social media from their origin and add that to the 40,000 number tally

Every image of those unharmed kids matched counts - including all the duplicate images of a very popular leotard maid dress junior idol girl named Laura and her play pal Valensiya. Each duplicate of these very common circulated junior idol girl media files counts as an FBI victim match to inflate the numbers. Normies will think a 40,000 victim match means 40,000 kids rescued when in reality its a bunch of unharmed social media kids, swimwear shopping catalogs. junior idols and duplicates of Laura and Valensiya. If only we can get the real crime victims without duplicates. That would be fair.

Over all I can conclude by saying I really don't care if they go after dark net child rape websites and hack them like Lolita City and KidFlix or sadistic telegram groups - I've never touched websites like those in my life. But jesus christ they are treating image boards with special needs adults posting swimwear/maid dress girls exactly the same. Patel knows exactly what he is doing. He is brainwashing the public into thinking all CP is adjacent to violent 764 crime and of course his narrative is nothing more then child protection instincts I discuss here.

Yup, child protection instincts we inherited from natural selection are the reason this bullshit happens in the first place.

https://forum.map-union.org/viewtopic.php?p=19529


The bottom line is if 90%-92% of CP is self generated (according to IWF) and only 1%-5% is hardcore (Level A), we need to know


regarding hardcore, which is consenting teenagers vs prepubescents being sex contacted?

and if the prepubescents are being harmed in proven ways?

and how bad is it/is violence present?

and how much of self generated media is coercion/deception and how much is "bedroom dancing kids"?

and what percent of CP is swimwear catalogs and child model stuff that many of us see EVERYWHERE?

We don't know all the data but all signs is pointing to self generated being the most common and non nude child modeling being much higher then adult child sex media, with sex with teens outnumbering prepubescent sex. Suggesting a safe world with few exceptions. The exception is the recent Matt Eskies baby video anti Alex Rosen discussed or child rape media produced by independent fathers that Tim Tebow discussed. So of course I will acknowledge the exceptions.

I don't have data to go further. I pushed AI for all it would give - and sometimes it hallucinates and the loons at the FBI and NCMEC aren't going to give us those facts because child protection instincts over ride it + comfy government jobs. One day the truth will come out. Girl Love Libertarion will be characterized by free speech radicalism - neuroscience on disgust - firey debates - and anti authoritarianism. If we somehow force then to release just the facts it could change everything. IWF's data and NCMEC's claim of AI CP exploding can be used against antis.

just trust me from personal knowledge that 1) self generated kids dancing and 2) bikini photos and 3) junior idol laura and valensiya severely outnumber child rape media and deceptive grooming photos - child rape media likely circulates on the worst corners of onion and p2p networks, but is outnumbered by photosharing websites, forums and isolated webpages/groups sharing borderline media of kids - sites which ban hardcore CP of prepubescents while still allowing bikini photos and the likes beyond legal limits.

That is inside information you are never getting from NCMEC/FBI.

[bnkywuv]

We must face facts. This is not an accident nor a mislabeling it's intentional. The fact that actual rape is less demonized just shows that the authorities themselves are evil and corrupt, and do not want a free, safe society. To a person who wants to dominate, pleasure and love is the threat to that ideology. Understanding is baiting and affection is grooming. They will ALWAYS see kind, caring people as awful because they themselves are awful people unwilling to see past their own hatred and vile nature.

A change in government and society is what we need. With all of the pedophobia going around I sense society is at it's tipping point already. Everyone will be accused of being a pedophile. Everyone will be a vigilante. We'll be at each other's throats all the time. No one will trust anyone.

In fact I'm seeing all kinds of perceived youth fighting back against this. If they really are as young as they say, then we might have chance yet.

[zarkle]

The fact that the FBI's official video on CSAM arrest from the project they did with Arizona US Attorney's depicted a stock video of a little black girl tied up and begging for help shows they are clear propagandist that know what they are doing. They know damn well only 0.1% or less of child porn cases are like that. And they choose intentionally to give the public a horror narrative. Kash Patel KNOWS 764 crimes while technically growing are still a very very small percentage of internet sex crimes, or NCMEC's it's the worst day of your life and someone walks in with a camera ignores the nuance of bikini photos being criminalized as well.

They know exactly what they are doing. They are choosing to lead with horror narratives so the public assumes the small amount of horror cases are the most common. The only possible logical defence they have is that while this content is very rare it may circulate heavily on dark net corners such as specific baby rape videos.

[zarkle]

I made a prediction about Kash Patel over the past few weeks, that independently others made years ago before even I showed up. The only slight tweak I am making to their claim is that peaceful ethical MAPs are a scapegoat due to the qanon lore. Below is the prediction I made that holds against stress testing.

zarkle: Kash Isn't dumb enough to believe in qanon but he plays along with the crowd of idiots who do - and indulges and promotes their delusions of satanic cannibal pedo elites so he is popular among MAGA.

Let's see evidence by others saying this to prove this is factual - and not slander like The Atlantic he is suing for calling him a alleged drunkard.
https://apnews.com/article/kash-patel-f ... bb502936b5 (THIS CLAIM IS NOT CONFIRMED OR RELEVANT)

Evidence 1 : Kash Patel doesn't believe in qanon and denounces it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lHMjDVvju4

Evidence 2-3: But he still plays ball with its community and uses internet child crimes to lean into their narratives with dramatizations
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdc0209t_Ck
https://x.com/FBIDirectorKash/status/20 ... 6555974054 (the video of the dramatized little black girl being tied up to represent CP victims is completely unrealistic, and anyone who does serious research on CP knows that cases like that are extremely extremely rare)

Evidence 4: He says Qanon helps people gather the truth and focus on the facts
https://malaysia.news.yahoo.com/cnn-pan ... 16136.html
“Whether it’s the Qs of the world, who I agree with some of what he does—and I disagree with some of what he does—if it allows people to gather and focus on the truth and the facts, I’m all for it,” Patel said in the montage.

https://www.ap.org/news-highlights/spot ... istration/

Evidence 5: Patel uses Qanon lore to fight illegal media and sexual things that are currently illegal. This directly confirms what I said.

Patel said in a 2022 podcast appearance that Truth Social was trying to incorporate QAnon, a set of conspiracy theories borne out of the idea that the government is run by a cabal of child predators, “into our overall messaging scheme to capture audiences.”

Evidence 6: Kash Patel praises a shitposter lunatic on 4chan's pol known as Q (the alleged qanon whistler blow who is likely not even one person)
“He should get credit for all the things he has accomplished,” Patel said of the anonymous figurehead of the QAnon movement.

Evidence 7:
This article in their own words says what I accused Patel of "Courting qanon Believers"

https://www.npr.org/2024/12/09/nx-s1-52 ... eories-fbi


The deep state is also a key feature of many modern, pro-Trump conspiracy theories, including QAnon. Adherents of QAnon claim the deep state works with a cabal of pedophile elites to secretly traffic children and harvest a chemical from their blood. They believe a government insider known as Q is working with Trump on a plan to take down the cabal and left cryptic clues on online message boards.

One of those supposed clues, known as a "Q drop," mentioned Patel by name in 2018 with the note, "name to remember" — making him a celebrated figure in QAnon lore.


Evidence 8: He interacts with a phony Qanon Q account from Trump's social media website

https://www.wired.com/story/kash-patel-qanon/

“Kashyap Patel - name to remember,” a Q-drop read back in 2018 when Patel was working as a senior committee aide to then House Intelligence Committee chair Devin Nunes.

Donald Trump's social media website truth social had a spoof Q account figure, Q was the supposed leaker who was hunting deep state satanic pedophiles dropping leaks on 4chan. Patel interacted with Q account on Donald Trump's Truth Social website.

“Having a beer with @q right now,” Patel wrote on Truth Social in February 2022, just days after the platform went live. The @Q account responded the following day, saying they were once again with Patel, and asking followers: “Alright anons, where are we kicking it tonight?”

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So it looks like many factors contributed to why Trump choose Kash Patel as the FBI directory but if we look analytical the biggest two are

1) Trump probably choose Kash Patel to be the FBI director because he figuratively kisses the far right's boot without resistance unlike Comey, or anyone with common sense - and also that flattering children's book Patel wrote about Trump as a king
https://x.com/HustleBitch_/status/2028293659800510576

2) That 2018 Qanon drop largely helped him play and integrate into the qanon lore. Patel knows he is forfiling the prophecy of idiots. And its possible both Trump and Patel know they are putting on political threatre by CP arrest being dramatized.

Though its obvious Patel is much more intelligent then Trump. As most of us are. My claim holds under enormous scrutiny that he is using qanon lore to appeal to his audience even though he doesn't believe the bullshit. He knows real world data says 15-17 year old teenagers are a huge portion of common ages that run away with their age gap boyfriend - and legally that can count as human trafficking / sex abuse - but he'll present publicly data like that in a skewed way to make people think little kids are being kidnapped by monster men abductors. When MAGA hears human trafficking they don't know the nuance of 17 year old and her 21 year old boyfriend running away together for couple of weeks at a motel. They think about brutal rape and torture dungeons, and Patel intentionally winks at that lore.

Now I will move on to my own personal opinion on things.

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The way I see things is that while there are extreme dangerous and horrible places where horrible things happen to children somewhere on the planet. It is a safe world for them in general especially here in the developed western world and this is one of the safest parts of history - and if we really want to make it safer we need to focus on stopping familial child abuse like the aggressive dad/stepdad rapist stereotype that harms his kids but doesn't have pedophilic disorder. Instead of mass arrresting special needs adults sharing pictures of swimwear and social media little girls on image boards or curating cute girl media, which also legally counts as CSAM. If the FBI really wanted to make the biggest difference it would focus on that instead of flexing all its muscle on internet exclusive crimes of child media that is found on the clearnet and treating them more severe in sentencing then violent rape.Patel's FBI gives into tribalism and like they are turning CSAM arrest into a theater performance for the public that doesn't match reality in 99.9% of cases. Just like anti MAP Youtuber's monetizing predator bust. I think this DOJ/FBI/DHS is putting on theater towards the public. It's safe to say Patel knows qanon is false because it has zero evidence as he said but he gives into the crowd of morons who believe it. They are his fans and his lifeline. So he has to play into their stupidity with hyper focus on very rare 764 child torture sextortion crimes.

I'm half asleep while writing this 'presses submit'