Message from Nelson Maatman

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Dean
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Lennon72 wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 10:27 pm I would like to know more about his situation. I think O know who this is but need to know for sure.
I provided you a link to his yesmap wiki page, his wikipedia is only in Dutch.

He's the activist that protested in Amsterdam against the exclusion of MAPs at Pride, and he was the last chair of the PNVD political party in the Netherlands.
He was 'captured' by Tim Ballard, from operation underground railroad OUR. And has been sitting in a cell in the Mexico City Oriente Prison for three years now without a trial and no support in any way at all. He was in Mexico legally as a refugee. And there's no evidence in his contrary at all.
Official assistant of Nelson Maatman during his incarceration in Mexico.
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Oh, wow. That sounds pretty bad. I would like to read whet he wrote but I do not know Dutch.
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Here's my honest opinion.

The main reason Nelson is not receiving donations is because people are nervous about sending donations, not because they're unwilling to spare a few dollars for a politically imprisoned supporter of MAPs.

There needs to be a PO Box that can receive donations, not an embassy address for a country where you more or less state that donations will be pilfered by postal officers unless the cash is carefully concealed.

A bank account owned by... someone?... is also unlikely to be trusted.

How can you offer a safe way for people to send money without compromising yourself in the process? That is the key question.

I'm posting this not out of aggression - as your efforts are laudable - but to hopefully help somewhat.
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Re: Message from Nelson Maatman

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BLueRibbon wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 11:44 am Here's my honest opinion.

The main reason Nelson is not receiving donations is because people are nervous about sending donations, not because they're unwilling to spare a few dollars for a politically imprisoned supporter of MAPs.

There needs to be a PO Box that can receive donations, not an embassy address for a country where you more or less state that donations will be pilfered by postal officers unless the cash is carefully concealed.

A bank account owned by... someone?... is also unlikely to be trusted.

How can you offer a safe way for people to send money without compromising yourself in the process? That is the key question.

I'm posting this not out of aggression - as your efforts are laudable - but to hopefully help somewhat.
Uhhm, that's literary any country? Okay, who's going to set that up? Nelson? That's the damn problem. You know there is a billion times bigger chance that they'll find you for visiting this site, even on TOR fully protected by tails, sitting in McDonald's across the state using their WiFi, than that they try to track you trough an anominous cash transfer to the girlfriend of some Cartel dude that even Nelson doesn't know. There's about 50 Americans using those accounts the same way. There exist no safer way, not even freaking Cryptocurrencies.


It's not even fear or paranoid, it's a complete lack of security knowledge. Anyway, better chance finding a publisher or literary agent for Nelson than a useful MAP I guess. Maybe he can use the money he makes himself to break out or something, because a trial he'll never get if nobody cares.
Official assistant of Nelson Maatman during his incarceration in Mexico.
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